Protective Clothing Standards

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Zebee Johnstone, Feb 3, 2004.

  1. "Fashion Accessory" covers a multitude of sins.

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    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    '81 Suzuki GS450-s
    '87 BMW K100RT

    www.dmcsc.org.au
     
    Peter Cremasco, Feb 3, 2004
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  2. Zebee Johnstone

    Skipperau Guest

    While you're right, that would be a concern, the far more likely
    scenario is that they would mandate that all gear of types x,y, and z
    sold on the Australian market from this date (insert some randomly
    generated date) be compliant with the Australian standards, they tend to
    not make those sorts of legislation retrospective.

    Doug.
     
    Skipperau, Feb 3, 2004
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  3. Zebee Johnstone

    Frank Warner Guest

    And Spain and Italy and Greece and Portugal ... gets warm in these
    places in Summer, so I think you will find the standard does not
    purposely restrict the cooling properties ...
    Both ends have a pub or two .. don't see the problem :p
    Try Rawlinna to Warberton .. no pubs ..and no unleaded (avgas works
    well though).

    At least a few A/NZ Standards are direct copies of the european ones ..
    makes trade much easier. Even the 'mericans are slowly catching on!
     
    Frank Warner, Feb 3, 2004
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  4. You call that a bonus? I'd sue them for compensation anyway!
     
    Pisshead Pete, Feb 3, 2004
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  5. I think that example isn't really a good analogy for what could happen
    with us. Just think helmets ...

    Cheers


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    Kevin Gleeson
    Technical Director
    Blue Rocket Productions
    Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
    www.blue-rocket.com.au
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Feb 3, 2004
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  6. In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 04 Feb 2004 10:38:18 +1100
    helmets were made compulsory before there was an AS standard.

    There was a big scandal about forged Snell and DOT approval stickers,
    which was part of th reason AS1698 was introduced, and I suspect one of
    the reasons helmets sold for use on the road have to be tested and
    approved, so it's harder to get forgeries in.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Feb 4, 2004
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  7. Yeah - but I still don't think the sunglasses analogy is a good one. I
    really think we'd open up the road to "you gotta wear this stuff".

    If there was a guarantee this wouldn't happen (yeah right, think
    "speed cameras only at blackspots") I'd probably be for the idea of
    AS.

    Cheers



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    Kevin Gleeson
    Technical Director
    Blue Rocket Productions
    Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
    www.blue-rocket.com.au
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Feb 4, 2004
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  8. Zebee Johnstone

    paulc Guest

    What would be good instead of a standard, is some kind of rating system.

    I often look at gear, and try and work out how much (if any) additional
    protection spending extra $$$ will get me. What's the difference between
    $30 gloves and $230 gloves. Is it just the colour, ventilation, or is it
    safer. I have no idea.

    My $0.02.

    Paulc
     
    paulc, Feb 4, 2004
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  9. Zebee Johnstone

    mike Guest

    If inflicting standards were to force the price up, then maybe less people
    will wear them
     
    mike, Feb 4, 2004
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  10. Zebee Johnstone

    Silmaril Guest

    What is DOT?
    My dad's new HJC Fibreglass helmet has a DOT sticker on it.
    Mine, a CMS, does not.

    Cheers,
    Adrian.
     
    Silmaril, Feb 4, 2004
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  11. Zebee Johnstone

    Nev.. Guest

    Show them the road toll breakdown which will clearly demonstrate that more
    drivers than motorcyclists are killed and injured on the roads and that when
    all employees driving cars to work switch to using the safest method of
    transportation to commute - a bicycle - that you will to.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Feb 4, 2004
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  12. glitch1 said....
    gl>
    gl> No, just adapt the CE standards.

    Adapt or adopt? I s'pose as consumers we can do that now, by purchasing
    only gear that does comply with Euro standards.
     
    Martin Taylor, Feb 4, 2004
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  13. Zebee said....

    ZJ> Is an Australian Standard for motorcycle protective clothing a good
    ZJ> idea?

    Yep, as long as it doesn't become a "compulsory" standard. Certainly, if
    I'm gonna buy a pair of jeans which are claimed to be rash-proof, then
    if the clothing meets a minimum standard, then they should be OK.
     
    Martin Taylor, Feb 4, 2004
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  14. Zebee Johnstone

    Gary Woodman Guest

    Second prize: a company laptop.

    Gary
     
    Gary Woodman, Feb 4, 2004
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  15. No, and the neither is there a need for one on the helmets.

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Feb 4, 2004
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  16. In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 4 Feb 2004 16:29:19 +1100
    US Dept of Transport I believe.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Feb 4, 2004
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  17. Zebee Johnstone

    Matt Palmer Guest

    sharkey is of the opinion:
    I like this idea. I'd appreciate knowing that the gear I'm potentially
    trusting my skin to meets a reasonable standard of safety, so I can make an
    informed cost/benefit analysis, but I'm not quite so keen on the govt
    telling me that I *have* to wear it.

    By a similar token, even if there were to be an AS put in place, there
    shouldn't be a ban on selling non-AS equipment. If I want to buy the cheapo
    stuff (costume party, anyone?) I should have the option. I don't expect
    that to last very long, though.

    - Matt
     
    Matt Palmer, Feb 4, 2004
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  18. Already have one of those. They aren't all they're cracked up to be. You
    suddenly get expected to work from home at all hours of the day to do little
    things for people. For no more reason than because you can now.
     
    James Mayfield, Feb 5, 2004
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  19. Perhaps we could go a similar way to food labelling.

    Have a standard, and if you want to advertise your clothing as providing
    protection in this that or the other, then it needs to be certified as such.
     
    James Mayfield, Feb 5, 2004
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  20. Zebee Johnstone

    Smiling Bob Guest

    "Certainly. I'll do that for you first thing tomorrow
    morning when I arrive at the office."

    Bob
     
    Smiling Bob, Feb 5, 2004
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