Provisional entitlement to ride 125cc motorcycle

Hi

I passed my driving licence in 1988, and this allowed me at that time
to ride upto 125cc bikes with L-plates.

Then the CBT training came in I think in 1990.

My licence says Provisional entitlement
A ;
C+CE, Valid from XX/XX/XXXX to XX/XX/2014
D+DE, Valid from XX/XX/XXXX to XX/XX/2014
G+H

The A is motorcycles over 50cc with no expiry date - subject to
provisions set out in Motor Vehicle (Driving licences) Regulations,
which at the time would have no doubt specified no greater than 125cc
with some sort of KW (power) restriction aswell.

Question:
When the CBT was introduced, the regulations would have changed, but
do the changes apply retrospectively to licences held before the
introduction of CBT?

All I found was The Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) Regulations
1996
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3xdffor

Next Question:
What do the rest of my provisionals stand for and why do 2 of them
expire in 2014?


Thanks

 

you have a provisional for a motorcycle up to 25kw as to the cbt etc I am
out of touch

c and d are forms of lorry and bus (and with trailer is the +)
2014 is when you reach some critical age where you must be medically
inspected

 

Unless they were full licences, yes. And if they were full licences, you
wouldn't be worrying about CBT anyway.

 

I don't understand any of it. I passed my motorcycle test in 1989 and
remember that I had to attend a short course. I recently took up biking
again and only just realised that I have a full A license.

I suspect that these days you have to take various tests according to
which bike size you want to ride.

 

I assume you have a car licence issued in 1988.

If you want to ride a bike, then you must comply with the CBT
requirements. The fact that you passed the car test before CBT was
introduced does not exempt you from it.

C and D relate to certain sizes of goods vehicles and buses. They are
phasing in requirements relating to those and from 2014 there are
requirements to be complied with in addition to holding the licence.
Maybe the time limit is related to that. As above, it might also be
related to your age.

G is a road roller, and H a tracked vehicle.

 

Sort of.

You only need to take one actual motorcycle test to gain access to any
motorcycle, though as you imply, there are a few different types. These
are lesser ones, like a moped test (which is worthless) or a test on a
fuly automatic bike which, like a car auto test, won't allow you to ride
a geared bike and is therefore equally useless.

 

Are there any auto bikes, beyond mopeds/scooters?

 

Oddly enough, yes.

 

Yes. Aprilai Mana came out in 2008 using a CVT. Honda has one for the
new VFR1200.

They've been around for yonks. I took my test in 1992 and the examiner
was using an automatic CB400.

 

If you take your test on an automatic 125, you'll get a 33hp limited
licence. You could get an FJR1300 auto or an Aprilia Mana and restrict
them to 33hp.

If you took your test on a Honda Silverwing superscoot, you'd not need
the restrictor.

In the classic market, there were a couple of attempts from Honda and
the Moto Guzzi Convert.

 

Can you recommend a site that gives chapter and verse in simple terms?

 

So what is the difference between an A and an A+ license?

 

Not quite. You can get a provisional licence just by applying for one,
but you can't ride on the road with one without having first done CBT.

Provisional licence + CBT certificate = enough to ride as a learner.

 

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/LearnerAndNewDrivers/RidingMotorcyclesAndMopeds/index.htm

 

but you then have to take your test within two years IIRC

 

Not quite. The CBT certificate expires after two years. So you either do
your test or do a CBT refresher.

 

or retake the CBT: quite a few people do this according to anecdotal
evidence from a mate that worked for MOTAG

 

Aprilia Mana and 850cc blob of thing and then there's that wonderful object
known as the Honda DN-01. Just two can think of off the top of my yed. Of
course, there's also the "Maxi" scooters (250cc and over) that are twist and
go if they're your thing.

 

+

 

means you can tow a trailer