[QUOTE] OK, I've given up in view of the fact that the lad wants to take the YZ85 to 'the chateau' for half term. I ended up breaking a spoke trying to get the corroded ones free and had no time to get new spokes and learn how to true it all up.[/QUOTE] Should have pointed out that the done thing with pushbike wheels is to replace the nipple at the same time as the spoke, so we always just cut them out.