Qlders learner laws - changes?

Question for QLders:

from a mate:
Can I go from learners straight to my open bike licence if I have my
open car licence.

 

If you're over 25 and do Q-ride, yes. (Maybe even if you don't do Q-ride.)

 

In NSW you have to be 30+ to count as 'mature age'. Are you suggesting
that Queenslanders mature earlier? Geez, next you'll be claiming that
dayling saving upsets the cows and fades the curtains!


GB, poking Clem with a stick!

 

Not any more. Changed as of 01 July 2008.

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Hom...ses/Q_ride/Steps_to_apply/Five_steps_to_qride

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/home/Safety/Road/Motorbike/Motorcycle_changes/

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/resources/file/eb82dc080e938a8/Pdf_motorcycle_gls_poster.pdf

Must have an RE (restricted to 250cc) licence for 12 months first.

And haven't heard anything in particular to suggest that Qld is going
to a LAMS system.

Bill

 

[helpless shrug] I'm just providing the facts; you're drawing the
conclusions GB!
--
Clem (almost 2 x 25 but not very mature)

** Besides; someone here proved that NO daylight-savings actually fades the
curtains more because the curtains get an extra hour sunlight in the
morning before you throw them open and greet the day!!

 

And how you have proven that time and time aagain.

 

NZ's been running a LAMBS system for years ..

 

And like thier sheepskins to have a bit of life in them...

 

Ask them if it's a good or bad thing and it's "meeeh"!

 

I think they just went back to a compulsory 250cc restriction in qld for
all new riders.

Nev..
'07 XB12X
'08 DL1000K8

 

missus has to get car permit, hold it for three months, then get car
licence, hold it for twelve months, then get bike permit, hold it for
three months, then get bike licence. car licence sits in the filing
cabinet for a year as she doesn't have a car, how does that improve
her skills as a rider, qld rules suck, big time

 

It's good to see you're still biting!


GB

 

Gumming maybe.

 

I believe that Q-ride was stopped, perhaps six months ago, something
like that.

Q'land government were talking about introducing LAMS, but don't know if
it is actually legal yet.

Is Harsh Week over?

What happened to "just fucking google it"?

regards,
CrazyCam

 

On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:57:46 GMT, Knobdoodle wrote:

[...]

This ng seems to be populated by young pups - Juvies, we usta call
yez.


Mr H - older but even less mature

 

Only if she does Q-Ride. She can still learn to ride and have QT test
her.

"Unless you undertake Q-Ride training, you must hold your learner
licence for at least six months before you are eligible to take a
practical driving test. The six month period may be made up of a
single continuous period or a number of individual periods within two
years before you apply to take the test. Otherwise you can complete
the Q-Ride competency based training program to obtain a Q-Ride
Certificate for the grant of a class RE provisional licence without
needing to be tested by Queensland Transport."

Google. You just never know what you might learn.

 

Six steps to Q-Ride
1.. Have the correct licence
To participate in Q-Ride training and assessment, as a minimum you must
hold a current class RE motorbike (engine capacity of 250 millilitres [ml]
or less) learner licence.

If you wish to obtain a class R motorbike (unrestricted) licence, you must
have held a class RE provisional or open licence for at least one year.


2.. Choose
Choose a Q-Ride registered service provider to provide your Q-Ride
training and assessment.


3.. Enrol
Contact your preferred service provider to enrol. The service provider
will ask you to provide some information about your licence history to
determine which class of motorbike you are eligible to learn to ride. For
example, if you want to learn to ride a class R motorbike, you may need to
know the date on which your class RE provisional or open licence was first
issued. You can obtain this information by completing a Driver's Record
Information Request form (F2121) and presenting it at any Queensland
Transport customer service centre. You must pay a fee when you lodge the
request.


4.. Learn to ride
Q-Ride training and assessment consists of a number of competency
standards that your trainer will take you through.

When learning to ride a motorbike you must display an L-plate and carry
your class RE learner, provisional or open licence. Your licence must be
shown to a police officer or any other authorised person if you are asked to
do so.


5.. Certificate
When you have demonstrated you are competent in all of the Q-Ride
competencies, the Q-Ride registered service provider will issue you with a
competency declaration (Q-Ride Certificate).


6.. Getting your licence
Before you can ride unaccompanied on your motorbike, you must take your
current licence and Q-Ride Certificate to a Queensland Transport customer
service centre to apply for your motorbike licence. Although you will not be
required to do a practical driving test, you must be eligible for the
licence you are applying for.

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Hom...ses/Q_ride/Steps_to_apply/Five_steps_to_qride


Boxer

 

That was me. Our three year trial ends this year and we are going to
spend a couple of mill in a referendum to ask the people for the
fourth time if they want daylight saving, just in time for my
retirement, when I wont care what time, or day, it is. I was driving
to work this morning at 6:15 with my headlights on. Sun-up today was
at 6:30.

Theo

 

<puzzled look>

How about:-
http://statements.cabinet.qld.gov.au....aspx?id=61362

Joint Statement:
Premier
The Honourable Anna Bligh

Minister for Transport, Trade, Employment and Industrial Relations
The Honourable John Mickel


Wednesday, November 12, 2008

NEW SAFETY PACKAGE TO TARGET MOTORCYCLE RIDERS


The Bligh Government today unveiled a range of new initiatives to help
tackle a rising motorcycle death toll.

Ms Bligh said nationally the rate of fatalities from motorcycle riding
was 20 times higher than for car drivers.

“Here in Queensland around one in five road fatalities are motorcyclists
and between 2003 and 2007 fatalities from crashes involving motorcycles
increased by 79%,” Ms Bligh said.

“More than 70 motorcyclists lost their lives last year alone and up
until last month 61 this year.

“These are alarming statistics that hide an incalculable cost to the
families, friends and loved ones of those who have died.

“Why has this tragic trend emerged?

“More and more people are riding motorcycles for regular commuting and
recreation leading to a steady increase in registrations and the number
of people obtaining a license.

“With increasing fuel prices and a greater interest in more
environmentally-friendly forms of transport this growth is expected to
continue.

“However more motorcyclists on the road means more risk.”

Ms Bligh said motorcyclists are more vulnerable to injury because they
do not have the same crash protection as car drivers.

“Motorcycle riding also requires greater attention and skills to that
used while driving a car,” she said.

“Our new initiatives have a particular focus on novice riders.

“These include:

* Introducing a requirement that provisional licence holders must a
display a P plate when riding a moped or motorcycle. Requiring P plates
to be displayed on motorcycles will identify newly licensed drivers to
other road users and help with enforcement of particular restrictions
that may be applied to these license holders
* Restricting class RE (restricted engine) motorcycle learners from
carrying a supervisor as a pillion passenger. Changing this rule will
remove the risk a pillion passenger poses to stability and balance of a
motorcycle for a novice rider.
* Introducing a Learner Approved Motorcycle Scheme to replace the
existing 250ml engine capacity restriction for class RE motorcycle
licence holders with a restriction based on a 150kW power-to-weight
ratio and a 660ml upper engine capacity limit. This will limit the
access of novice riders to powerful and unsuitable bikes
* An enhanced road maintenance and infrastructure program aimed
specifically at correcting and repairing those parts of the road surface
and road environment which pose a particular danger to motorcyclists.
* New and targeted motorcycle public education materials.

Minister for Transport John Mickel said currently learner, provisional
and open car and motorcycle licence holders over the age of 25 must
comply with the standard .05 limit.

“Queensland is the only State that differentiates based on age,” he said.

“We are going to change that with the introduction of a zero
blood/breath alcohol concentration restriction for all learners,
provisional drivers and novice drivers – regardless of age.

“Not just motorcyclists but cars as well.”

Mr Mickel said today’s initiatives would be phased in over the next 18
months and are the outcome of a broad body of work completed since the
Queensland Road Safety Summit including a Queensland Transport review of
motorcycle safety, the Select Committee on Travelsafe’s Inquiry into the
Q-Ride Rider Training Program and a recent motorcycle safety community
consultation process.

November 12, 2008

That quote explains my comment about Q-land getting LAMS.

As for the Q-ride business, I felt sure it had been canned but can't
actually find a reference to it. :-(

Apparently it worked like this.

Bloke (or blokess) goes into big m/c shop.
Wants to buy a thirty thousand dollar motorcycle but doesn't have a licence.
Salesperson sez no problem, sign here here and here.... and Bob is your
Auntie Kate, they have a full licence.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Me too. That item posted here prompted my enquiry re LAMS to the WA
dept of Transport asking why we were the only State without it.

Theo