Question 4 the group

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by madmick, Jun 27, 2006.

  1. This rear wheel lock-up on cruisers has me a little perplexed. I
    would've thought that, with more of the weight being towards the rear of
    the bike (when compared to a sports bike), there would be LESS chance of
    a rear wheel lock up under similar braking scenarios.

    Unless, of course, the rear lock-ups are due to excessive use of the
    rear brake due to relying solely on the rear brake because the front
    brake is not used.
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    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    Before an accident, most city drivers say "****!", whereas most country drivers
    say "Hang on to this stubby, mate, while I show you some awesome driving"
    '81 Yamaha Virago (XV) 750H (work in progress)
    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

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    Peter Cremasco, Jun 28, 2006
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  2. It just occurred to me that one reason for rear wheel lock-ups when
    downshifting is due to a poor downshifting technique where the throttle
    is not used to match engine revs to rear wheel revs.

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    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    Before an accident, most city drivers say "****!", whereas most country drivers
    say "Hang on to this stubby, mate, while I show you some awesome driving"
    '81 Yamaha Virago (XV) 750H (work in progress)
    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

    www.dmcsc.org.au
    http://eladesom.com.au/ulysses/
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    Peter Cremasco, Jun 28, 2006
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  3. and due for a truck replacement about half way down.

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    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    Before an accident, most city drivers say "****!", whereas most country drivers
    say "Hang on to this stubby, mate, while I show you some awesome driving"
    '81 Yamaha Virago (XV) 750H (work in progress)
    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

    www.dmcsc.org.au
    http://eladesom.com.au/ulysses/
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    Peter Cremasco, Jun 28, 2006
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  4. madmick

    ck Guest

    No

    I prefer to think of them as "front brake" and "rear brake" as their have
    very different uses and purposes in a variety of situations.

    hand and foot brake are terms very rarely heard when describing motorcycle
    brakes
     
    ck, Jun 28, 2006
    #24
  5. madmick

    madmick Guest

    Nah if its gunna be locked up from braking it will be both front and rear if
    I am on the barstard.
    AG100
    Z400
    500XLS
    Z1000
    KDX 250
    T140V
    Rudge 500 Special (close but no cigar)
    Virago 2fiddy city commuter
     
    madmick, Jun 29, 2006
    #25
  6. madmick

    G-S Guest

    Then the truck owner was correct.

    Standard short distance heavy vehicle instruction method is _not_ to use
    engine braking, and almost all heavy vehicle manufacturers recommend this
    also.

    Gearboxes these days in heavy vehicles are that specialised in many cases
    that the design parameters are optimised for wear resistance under
    acceleration.

    This can be different with long distance heavy vehicles however...


    G-S
     
    G-S, Jun 29, 2006
    #26
  7. madmick

    G-S Guest

    My outfit has a front brake, a rear brake and a hand brake...


    G-S
     
    G-S, Jun 29, 2006
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  8. madmick

    JL Guest

    And the guzzi has a what type of brake system again Theo ?

    a) linked
    b) one where both wheels have their brakes applied by the one pedal
    c) integrated
    d) all of the above and more with a free set of steak knives

    JL
     
    JL, Jun 29, 2006
    #28
  9. madmick

    JL Guest

    Learn how to ride
     
    JL, Jun 29, 2006
    #29
  10. madmick

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    My bike has a hand operated brake which operates on the front wheel, and a
    foot operated brake which operates on both wheels. What do you think I
    should call them. 'front brake' and 'front and rear brake'?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jun 29, 2006
    #30
  11. madmick

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    You only just figured that out? How else can he do a gear-box retardation
    lock-up of the back wheel on a 250? :)

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jun 29, 2006
    #31
  12. madmick

    ck Guest

    hmmmmm

    I see your point now

    ck

    linked brakes..........eeewwwwww
     
    ck, Jun 29, 2006
    #32
  13. madmick

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Nah, I didn't get the steak knives.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jun 29, 2006
    #33
  14. Only poofters slow down...
    Give 'er the berries!

    Postman Pat
     
    Pat Heslewood, Jun 29, 2006
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  15. madmick

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    My car has linked brakes as well. I suppose I could block the rear brake
    lines and use the handbrake.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jun 29, 2006
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  16. madmick

    JL Guest

    Ripped off !! Storm the barricades at your local dealer I tell ya !

    JL
     
    JL, Jun 29, 2006
    #36
  17. Hey! I'm slow.

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    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    Before an accident, most city drivers say "****!", whereas most country drivers
    say "Hang on to this stubby, mate, while I show you some awesome driving"
    '81 Yamaha Virago (XV) 750H (work in progress)
    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

    www.dmcsc.org.au
    http://eladesom.com.au/ulysses/
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    Peter Cremasco, Jun 29, 2006
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  18. madmick

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Obviously you've never ridden a bike with linked brakes then.
    Once you have you'll find that the terms "hand" and "foot" brakes are far
    more logical.
     
    Knobdoodle, Jun 29, 2006
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  19. madmick

    Knobdoodle Guest

    **** Theo; couldn't you have kept it a secret a bit longer so I got the
    chance to be a smartarse!!
     
    Knobdoodle, Jun 29, 2006
    #39
  20. Pretty savage rear disk, for some reason. Mind you, I learnt to modulate
    the pressure.

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    Cheers

    PeterC [aka MildThing]
    Before an accident, most city drivers say "****!", whereas most country drivers
    say "Hang on to this stubby, mate, while I show you some awesome driving"
    '81 Yamaha Virago (XV) 750H (work in progress)
    '01 Yamaha FJR1300

    www.dmcsc.org.au
    http://eladesom.com.au/ulysses/
    # 37181
     
    Peter Cremasco, Jun 29, 2006
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