Quick Fang : Guzzi Breva 750

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by glitch1, Sep 26, 2003.

  1. glitch1

    glitch1 Guest

    Still dry and nothing else to do... :)
    Ever since the last Melb Bike Expo that bike "bounced" around in my head,
    just curious... sooo, I took the "little" Guzzi for a spin.
    750cc, 48hp, 130 tyres on the back, 110 up front, no fairing, piece of crap,
    some might say...
    Then again, how many Monsters did Ducati sell? This looked like something
    along the same lines...
    First looks: Found various Aprilia parts on it, nice finish, still the old
    steel-cradle frame, clean lines, didn't like the "fresh dogshit" colour of
    the wheels (but somehow that was only apparent when looking at the wheels on
    their own). Braided lines, Bridgestone Battleax BT45s, neat lines to the
    bike as a whole.
    Small,clear micro-fairing around the instrument-cluster.
    Neat looking seat.

    Getting on: short, easy sidestand, low seat height (good for anyone 5'2"
    upwards, since there's a lower, scooped-out seat available ex-factory),
    everything falls to hand right-away, generic swith gear (no fancy BMW-style
    weird stuff).

    Getting going: Electronic instruments with needles (analogue style) hitting
    the top-end before settling down. Easy starter, round idle but lumpy vibes
    through the whole bike just standing there (just as any other Guzzi).
    There's still a bit of a shake side-to side.
    It's a SLICK snicker into first and off we go.

    On the road: Only had 1.5hrs on the bike, but here it goes...
    I can hear it....totally underpowered, no guts, too heavy,
    wheelbarrow-tyres, yaddayadda...
    Here's what I thought: Here's one worthwhile bike for anyone having
    problems with seat height. The seat is COMFY. My 6ft frame just clicked into
    the bike, perfectly comfortable between tank-cutouts and the slight step of
    the rear-seat. Stable when you let go of the bars, no shakes.
    The front brake is a gem (sure, no R1 stuff here, but....), very nice,
    strong and controllable. Upper body hovers over the tank without putting
    weight onto the wrists.
    That loads up the front-end nicely, even if it's a conventional one. Rear
    brake fully usable and great feel, no vicious snapping, not too much
    pressure needed, just right.
    Engine is a bit lumpy from 1000rpm idle to about 1700rpm, then smoothes out
    and pulls strongly from 2500rpm, without any vibes or lumpiness at all.
    The gearbox is light and positive, no false neutrals. Redline at 8k, I quit
    at 6500 due to the bike's 500km on the clock. Until then, the whole
    rev-range from 2000rpm up was usable in all gears, no lumps, no holes....and
    that fuel-injection just feels like carbs....smooth, not sharp or jerky,
    this is one sweet setup.
    Due to the exposed position and the lack of fairing, 80kmh feel sorta
    quickish, this is also a license-saving bike.

    Then it was into the twisties of my "home-track" ....and what a revelation
    that was.
    This bike is a beauty, the front end is light and willingly bites into the
    bends, rock-stable and easy to swap lines mid-corner, both brakes showing no
    signs of weakness anywhere, the rear pulling up the bike gently when
    trailing into bends under steam.
    It's just about close enough to call it 250's feel. The "clicked-into-place"
    seating position gives great control and it's oh-so-easy to feel at one with
    the bike.
    Shaftdrive reactions are very minimal. Chassis/ suspension is taut/ firm but
    comfortable (particularly considering the short length of the bike). Front
    end non-adjustable from what I saw.

    Gripes?
    The handlebar vibrates just a touch and can create numb hands; heavier,
    bigger bar-ends might be a good idea. The gearlever-to-footpeg distance is
    too short for my size 11s und the throw is a touch too long to go with it, I
    found that I had to bent my foot more than normal to click the gears into
    place (and had to lift the boot off the peg for the downshifts). Either/ and
    a shorter-throw/ longer lever would be great, but it's one of those things
    one can adjust to given a bit more time with the bike (I landed in a couple
    of false neutrals at the start, then got used to it).
    That's about it, for those who want it, there's a shield available as well
    as other goodies like panniers etc etc

    Target market?
    Due to the low seat height (but good ergonomics for taller riders): It's a
    worthwhile competitor in the Monster600-750/Hornet600/Bandit600/ZX7 class.
    Female riders, people coming off their P's looking for something not as
    drastic as an R1/KiloGixxer...people who just want to have fun and go for a
    tootle here and there without lubing chains, those who've had their fun on
    the "rapid-plastic" and want to go for something different. Many more, I
    guess...


    All up:
    NOT being a Guzzisti, this one has suckered me in. It's a great bike, I love
    it. The "lousy" 48hp are no issue at all, the thing's got grunt everywhere
    and lopes along very nicely. It's FUN (and Aprilia/now Guzzi seems to have a
    knack for things in that department) to ride, nice brakes/nice looks/nice
    finish, it's a hoot through the twisties and
    an-easy-to-live-with-everyday-companian by first impressions, what more can
    be said about a middle-weight?
    Ahhhh...it's FUN.
    Good one Guzzi, hope you'll sell plenty of them.
    ( for the time being the garage is full and the pocket empty, otherwise I'd
    have an instant marital crises on my hands :)))

    cheers
    pete
     
    glitch1, Sep 26, 2003
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  2. In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:57:21 +1000
    Nice writeup!

    Sounds like they've made a very nice bike.

    I hope plenty of people give it a go and look past the horsepower
    numbers to the real-world liveability.

    I reckon it would make a top allround allweather bike for someone who
    can cope with a sub200kmh top speed :)

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Sep 26, 2003
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  3. glitch1

    glitch1 Guest

    They certainly did.
    Yo, that about sums it up.
    I was really expecting a gloss-painted mid 80s R80-style bike and was
    stumped by what Guzzi came up with.
    This is an easy one to live with (if reliable and not showing too many
    type-specific gremlins).
    It's got nice gear with the braided lines/Brembos both ends, simple but
    effective dual-shock rear-end and it felt as tight and firm as any sporty
    I've ridden over the past few years. Surprisingly tight for an old-style
    steel-tube frame, seeing "old tech" work so well was a bit of a shock and
    certainly reset the "personal scales".
    It was even good for a small stoppie :) without the steering-head/forks
    getting "weak-kneed and wobbly" after the rear came off the deck,
    impressive.
    Yep, if you don't NEED the 200kmh plus, this one certainly get's to 130 in a
    hurry and in such a nice and smooth way, too.
    Don't know about top speed (couldn't care anyway), but going by feel, she'd
    go the 180-190, a bit less 2-up. The sweet riding is anywhere through the
    guts of the odo though, and that's what counts on real roads.

    I'd love to see a red one.... then again, better not :)

    cheers
    pete
     
    glitch1, Sep 26, 2003
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  4. glitch1

    smack Guest

    theres a job for knobgoogle. An URL please to peruse the Guzzi.



    smack
     
    smack, Sep 26, 2003
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  5. glitch1

    glitch1 Guest

  6. In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:14:01 GMT
    Like lotsa bikes it looks better in the metal.

    Although those grey plastic doohickeys look odd in meatlife too.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Sep 26, 2003
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  7. glitch1

    Smee Guest

    Pity you'll never ride any of them legless.

     
    Smee, Sep 27, 2003
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  8. glitch1

    voigtstr Guest

    Crikey, I havent even had the V11 Le Mans over 200Kmh yet.
     
    voigtstr, Oct 2, 2003
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