Quiz time again

Discussion in 'Classic Motorcycles' started by kenney, Apr 25, 2007.

  1. kenney

    kenney Guest

    Just for the hell of it I thought I would post a few more questions,
    books are allowed I used them to set the questions.

    Firsts

    The earliest known illustration of a motorcycle
    Date (I will settle for the year here)
    Name


    First Motorcycles just the builder and year and this one refers to
    prototypes. 2pts each.

    UK
    France
    Germany
    US

    These are the countries I have references for, there is a bonus for
    coming up with verifiable firsts for other countries.

    Manufacturers

    Several started by producing something else. Ignoring bicycle
    manufacturers name them and what they were noted for before getting into
    motorcycles.

    Some unexpected people produced prototypes which never made it to
    production. Which razor blade manufacturer did?


    Up to WW2 a lot of firms made wide use of bought in engines. One point
    for each engine supplier you can come up with. This one includes
    tricycles.

    Miscellaneous

    The sidecar replaced what?
    What system was used to indicate engine size in the UK prior to WW2?
    What was a Snowden?
    How did the Gold Star get it's name?

    Racing

    What was unusual about the early TT races?
    Last sidevalve to win a senior TT?
    Which firm took 1,2,3 in a TT race with new bikes?
    Which firm produced a V8 racing engine for the TT?

    I will leave this for a while, though I will respond to requests for
    clarification if any questions are ambiguous.

    Ken Young
     
    kenney, Apr 25, 2007
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  2. The Village Idiot - there being a terrible shortage of them post WW1.
    The TBLM Systeme International... Tiddler, Boys, Ladies, Mens,
    A type of motorised igloo used in Wales. Not seen since the Great
    Warming of 1922.
    It was an award given to the first manufacturer to successfully take
    part in the TT races without every gearbox stripping its teeth.
    They were run underwater in the Irish Sea.
    Spagthorpe Italia. Single cylinder - 3500cc of pure torque.
    Spagthorpe. 1940. Because of a communication breakdown nobody informed
    the factory the race was cancelled that year. The bikes were unloaded
    from the ferry and Jeremy Spagthorpe declared his factory team winners
    by default without doing a single lap.
    The Spagthorpe JouleMeister motorcycle used a scaled down version of
    their WaveShagger powerboat engine. Only 50 of these engines were
    available, largely because that's how many were made until it was
    realised that the drawings were at the wrong scale.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 25, 2007
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  3. ^^^^
    Substantially correct.

    Although Sir appears to have misspelt "Gentleman's" as indicated above

    Tsk, tsk tsk.
     
    steve auvache, Apr 25, 2007
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  4. I used the traditional nomenclature employed by members of the retailing
    classes involved in the preparation and sale of two-wheeled conveyances
    to the General Public. Apostrophes and grammar were more of an art in
    such an application. Indeed, the TBLM Systeme had little or nothing to
    say on the matter, leaving it largely to the preferences of the
    individual proprietor. Oddly, the use of "Gentleman's" would be more
    found in the establishments catering to the lower orders than ones more
    used to dealing with the moneyed classes.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 25, 2007
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  5. A gentleman's conveyance such as that made by Messrs Spagthorpe is never
    retailed, it is purveyed.
     
    steve auvache, Apr 25, 2007
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  6. kenney

    Naqerj Guest

    Japan, N.S., 1909
    I reckon you should exclude guns too, 'cos there were loads of them:
    BSA, Enfield, Manufrance, FN, Jawa... and that's just a few I can
    remember without having to look things up.
    Trailer, I suppose... though you could also include the Forecar.
    I'd guess that was one of the small bikes produced to take advantage of
    the tax concession in the Snowden Budget of 1930-something (1931?) but
    I've never heard them called that before. I though 'Pip-squeak' was the
    common nickname (and, hence, the name 'Wilfred' being applied to
    autocycles).
     
    Naqerj, Apr 25, 2007
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  7. kenney

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Yamaha: reed organs, hence the tuning-fork logo.

    Sunbeam: loads of domestic stuff.

    Kawasaki: I *think* that Kawasaki Heavy Engineering produced bikes as
    a a sideline to open up their presence in wider markets, but ICBW.

    BMW: aircraft engines.

    Latter-day Triumph: Bloor was in construction or something, wasn't he?
    Dunno if there was a more direct link than that, though.
    Villiers, JAP, Minerva
    Dunno: trikes?
    Something to do with someone earning a Brooklands Gold star for speed
    round the track, I think.
    Moto Guzzi.
     
    Pip Luscher, Apr 25, 2007
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  8. kenney

    Roger Hunt Guest

    wrote
    They went round the other way?
     
    Roger Hunt, Apr 25, 2007
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  9. Nothing much changed then?

    T.
     
    Terry Richards, Apr 26, 2007
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  10. <VVBG>
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 26, 2007
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  11. kenney

    prawn Guest

    And priced in Guineas, of course.
     
    prawn, Apr 26, 2007
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  12. ABC, made by Sopwith (aircraft)
    Obviously BSA...
    J.A.P.
    Villiers
    De Dion (?)
    H.P. using, I imagine, the R.A.C. formula.
    Moto Guzzi
     
    Austin Shackles, Apr 26, 2007
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  13. kenney

    kenney Guest

    Is that the full name?
    Probably a good idea.

    Ken Young
     
    kenney, Apr 26, 2007
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  14. kenney

    Roger Hunt Guest

    Champ wrote
    Wouldn't it be wonderful if they instituted a road race in the Forest of
    Dean. Lots of fabulous bits of road and many sheep to provide a soft
    landing (and also post-race R&R for the riders).
    Thinking (inexpertly) about the tyres they might have used, and the road
    surface they used them on, makes my bowels loosen.
     
    Roger Hunt, Apr 26, 2007
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  15. kenney

    Ace Guest

    AAAaaarrgh! It'a 'averse', you language-mangler!

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    Ace, Apr 26, 2007
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  16. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
    I wonder if the OP's thinking of the fact that they had to dismount and
    open the gates onto and off the mountain?

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - Podium Placed Ducati Race Engineer as featured in
    Performance Bikes and Fast Bikes

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (Falling apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Yamaha Vmax Honda ST1100 wiv trailer
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Apr 26, 2007
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  17. kenney

    Roger Hunt Guest

    Champ wrote
    What a shame...
    Good job many people here give several fingers to the caring, sharing,
    do-gooders ....
    .... however, bad job that so many young car drivers get killed around
    here too - another one two days ago on a notorious rat-run of a road
    (A48, Minsterworth).
     
    Roger Hunt, Apr 26, 2007
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  18. kenney

    Roger Hunt Guest

    Ace wrote
    Really? Cor fancy that.
     
    Roger Hunt, Apr 26, 2007
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  19. kenney

    Naqerj Guest

    That's the name on the tank. I know the S stood for Shimazu, but don't
    know about the N.
     
    Naqerj, Apr 26, 2007
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  20. kenney

    Steve Guest

    They had to achieve a certain mpg figure as well as going as fast as
    possible.

    Steve
     
    Steve, Apr 26, 2007
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