R1 vs R6

Last post on 'what bike shall I get?', honest.

I've found an R1 locally at a very favourable price, and in the right
colour etc, and I'm going to view it on Saturday.

As stated in the other threads of late, I've fallen in love with the
way the R6 builds its power - am I going to find the R1 pretty linear
like the ZX9R, or will it get my juices going in the way an R6 does?

Yes, I know... 'just **** off and try one'... but I'd be interested to
see what others think who've ridden both.

The R1 in question is an early 1998 one.

TIA

 

I've not ridden an R1, but generally speaking with sports bikes, the
smaller the engine, the more frenetic the power delivery. An R1 will
certainly pull harder at high RPM, but might not feel like it is as the
boost when it comes on-cam won't be as obvious.

It sounds like what you really need is a Muzzy turbo ZX10R, or a
'sensible' bike for normal use & a CR500 supermoto for playing.


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I recently came across a '98 R1 that had ovalled the bearing seat on
the top of the headstock. It was pretty bad, to the extent that the
bearing race shot across my workshop when I smacked it out with a
drift. I only hit the thing once too.

The owner scrapped the bike for spares because the engine was a tired
old ex-race lump that burnt oil at a ridiculous rate and wasn't worth
reframing. He made a grand in profit on the bike over 3 years of
ownership by breaking it

 

I had an R6 for the day I took the R1 in for a service and *hated* it.

if you want something that revs to eek range and you have to work to
get anywhere then get an R6.

if you want something easier to ride buy an R1.

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Sounds a bit like what the ZX9R delivers then - obviously they're a
tad more frentic than that though from what I've read.

If only... I'm not made of money, you know. ;-)

 

To be honest, after riding a 2007 R1, 2007 R6 and a K6 Gixer thou back
to back I'd have the Gixer every day. The R1 felt gutless at low revs
and in the midrange compared to the Gixer, and the R6 was just gutless
everywhere full stop.

 

Aye.

The bike I'm looking at Saturday looks very clean and original - it's
done something like 30k from new.

Doesn't even have wanky mini indicators, which are something the
'R'isti seem to favour going by the bikes I've seen on eBay etc, so
far.

It's in spangly bloo as well, which is the one true colour for either
of these IMHO.

Ok... this is something my mate, who has had the use of an R1 in the
past and keeps on nagging me I should get one of these instead, can't
seem to appreciate might be something some of us actually see as a
good thing?

It's something to get my kicks on primarily - all other considerations
bar maybe the ability to ride it for more than 20 miles without a
season ticket with an osteopath, are relatively moot points.

The R6 last weekend proved to be far more accommodating comfort wise,
than I'd been expecting.

Well I've done the R6 last week... this week it's the turn of the
R1

Ta muchly

....you say that like it's a bad thing. ;-)

What about second - wheelies in spades off the power?

 

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Ok... this is something my mate, who has had the use of an R1 in the
past and keeps on nagging me I should get one of these instead, can't
seem to appreciate might be something some of us actually see as a
good thing?

Using only two gears on UK roads (for fast and faster) with a 1000 is a good
thing: Helps for a more relaxed driving for commuting, travelling or saving
left hand clutch effort in case you are a lefty wanker.

And if you want to experiment the thrill of a 600 when it starts moving
fast, simply rev the 1000 beyond 8000 rpm. And enjoy.

 

Look , I know you're trying to be helpful, but he's having enough
trouble shortening the field as it is.

 

I much prefer the progressive and not vicious feeling that a 2nd or 3rd
gear wheelie gives. 1st always seems too brutal and hard to judge where
the point I want to keep it at because it's coming up too fast.

I'm crap at wheelies too, only ever pulled 2 or 3 really great ones in
my life.

 

Bear wrote:

He should stick to wheelies cos he's crap at electrics.

 

I'll read it again in a minute. My head wasn't in a reading place when
it arrived.

 

My best was my first time on a TZ350 when I let it drop out of the powerband
and changed down without remembering to fully close the throttle....

 

Buy the R1, R6 & many other sport 600's are way too peaky for general road
use to be comfortable or easy to use as they are meant to be used. I have
never owned an R1, but if i did (and i will) i very much doubt i would even
try an R6. It's horses for course as with all things, but it's no fun
changing gears & redlining in traffic to make progress.

--
Nige, 'That's not my name'

Range Rover Td6 Vogue
BMW K1200S
Suzuki GSX-R1000 K3
Focus ST3

 

Sounds like you're scared of power, biker boy.....

--
Nige, 'That's not my name'

Range Rover Td6 Vogue
BMW K1200S
Suzuki GSX-R1000 K3
Focus ST3

 

uh huh...so how long 'til you sell the gsxr? ;-)

 

It's only £1900 as it is - suspect he might take a little less on the
day as well... not overpriced really given it all appears to be
original, looking at what some others seem to be fetching of late.

Well I decided that after the last CBR600... and then I rode that R6
last weekend and it turned my own personal rule book up on its
head.

I'm no great shakes, but I'm getting better - the VFR is *really* easy
to loft in first, the 9R, not so easy.

Incidentally, someone has agreed to buy the 9R on Saturday - £1675.

I think it's fair to say he's got himself a bit of a bargain really,
especially as I actually went through the folder of paperwork for it
today and realised instead of the two old MOTs I thought it had, it
has the full suite back to 2003 when it first needed one.

And before anyone sucks air through their teeth and mutters 'mug',
I've done alright on a few other bits of late I've punted out of late,
so I'd rather take a bit of knock and know it's sold now, rather than
hold out for a better price and then potentially lose out on a bike
that comes along in the meantime that's ideal for me because my money
is tied up in the 9R.

You win some, you lose some.

 

I disagree.

And for me, in power terms at least, 'comfortable' appears to be
equating to 'boring' these days.

You don't need to redline something like this at all, to 'make
progress' in traffic... it's well on the road to 'Nuts City' at 8k...
and you've another 8k to play with until the rev limiter kicks in.

 

....at which point I'll probably reel off a load of posts about 'Gixxer
Thou or R1'. lol

Let's see what happens when I become acquainted with the R1 on
Saturday...

It's real one, btw... not an 'i' series. ;-)

 

I'd be happy with an immaculate one-owner bike, maybe even two owners,
but anything more than that: you just *know* some bugger has abused it
(probably the gearbox).