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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Paul Corfield, Nov 3, 2003.

  1. Paul Corfield

    Sean Doherty Guest

    Midi instrument #74.
     
    Sean Doherty, Nov 4, 2003
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  2. Paul Corfield

    Eddie Guest

    *parp*

    No, that's a flügelhorn - try #75.
     
    Eddie, Nov 4, 2003
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  3. <Rant mode>

    Actually I don't think the Beatles are worth all the adulation that
    everyone gives them. OK - so they wrote some good tunes. Big deal. So
    did a lot of other 60's musicians who were far more ground-breaking.

    And no - I don't buy into the "Beatles created the pop market"
    malarkey either.

    </RM>

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Nov 4, 2003
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  4. Paul Corfield

    ogden Guest

    The Cure covered it yeaaaaaaaars ago and I'm sure they weren't the
    only ones.

    Remixing isn't always a bad thing, you know. Massive Attack's remix
    of Godless by the Dandy Warhols 0wns.
     
    ogden, Nov 4, 2003
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  5. Paul Corfield

    Pip Guest

    Oh, bollockybollockyfuckpigs. I was going to add a rider to my
    comment, in a similar (but I must admit, less ranty) vein - but I
    couldn't really be arsed at the time. I don't rate the Beatles much
    either: yes, some of their tunes were good, some even stand the test
    of time - but it certainly ain't my kind of music on the whole(1)
    (even if I do have a much more eclectic taste in music than you(2)).

    The point that irritated me was that someone purporting to be a
    (wannabe) musician should be so incredibly ignorant as to be
    apparently unaware of the existence of (probably) the most popular
    band of their time - which was only ten years previous to the incident
    in question. And no, fwiw I don't think that The Beatles "created the
    pop market" which was happening anyway. They were victims of their
    own success and Beatlemania, both of which were largely out of their
    control.

    Whether you like them or not ... when I was at school, you had to fall
    into one of the several fanbases available:
    Beatles _or_ Stones
    Floyd _or_ Zeppelin
    Sunderland _or_ Newcastle (Hartlepool fans got filled in by both
    fraternities, just to keep it fair)

    It was so black and white in those days - or red and white iyswim.
    You were a hippy or a rocker. Pop was a passing frippery and
    recognised as such; which is just as well, given the speed that it
    changed from teenypop to punk, then there were the New Romantics and
    electropoppers. You knew where you were with Floyd, like. Or
    Zeppelin - or even Queen, for the Johnnycomelatelys.



    1. I do rather like George Harrison's solo stuff, mind.
    2. I prefer the Rutles, on the whole.
     
    Pip, Nov 4, 2003
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    Logorrhea Guest

    Done best by the Kronos Quartet on their 1986 album, IMO.
     
    Logorrhea, Nov 4, 2003
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  7. Paul Corfield

    Champ Guest

    Hmm. I occassionallly have this argument with people. For my money,
    even tho I don't "love" much of their material, I think they were
    easily the most musically significant band ever. They we in at the
    start of the revolution in popular music (and culture), writing simple
    but catchy pop tunes (which turn out to be beautifully constructed),
    and at the end of the decade were producing concept album material,
    advancing recording techniques massively, and writing *about* the huge
    social changes going on around them.

    While other musicians did some of this stuff, none did all of it, or
    carried such a huge audience with them.

    But, I still prefer the Stones to listen to :)
     
    Champ, Nov 4, 2003
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  8. Champ wrote
    Close enough to be agreed with I suppose.
     
    steve auvache, Nov 4, 2003
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  9. Paul Corfield

    christofire Guest

    So no-one should be allowed to put a noisy end can on a bike either?
    <Manufacturer>[1] didn't intend it to be that way, else they'd supply it
    with it fitted, or at least alongside.

    If the music they were making wasn't selling then they wouldn't be
    making it.

    [1] minus a few exceptions, I know Aprilia and Triumph offer loud pipes.
     
    christofire, Nov 4, 2003
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  10. Paul Corfield

    Champ Guest

    <proud>
     
    Champ, Nov 4, 2003
    #50
  11. Well, I can agree with that I suppose, I just object to mucking around
    with someone else's recording.
     
    Darren Robinson, Nov 4, 2003
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  12. I don't equate the two, although I can see your point. I suppose, if
    I look at it completely objectively, I object to people whose musical
    style I dislike making money out of someone who I do like, even though
    the original artist will be getting a slice of the pie. I can be
    pretty intolerant at times, I will admit, and of the most petty
    things. I never claimed to be perfect.
    True. People also buy scooters, can you believe it?
     
    Darren Robinson, Nov 4, 2003
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    Lozzo Guest

    The Older Gentleman wibbled like a little girl....
    My all time favourite song is a cover version, so I guess I'm biased

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    Lozzo, Nov 4, 2003
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    ogden Guest

    Bollocks.

    The way a recording sounds is as much down to the producer as the
    musicians/artists and in that context a remixer is simply a producer.

    Often the sound is *more* due to the producer than the musicians.
     
    ogden, Nov 4, 2003
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  15. That's not what I meant. I mean what is put on the recording, not the
    way in which it is done. A "trance mix" of DSOTM has more on it than
    what PF recorded, regardless of the monkey at the desk.
     
    Darren Robinson, Nov 4, 2003
    #55

  16. It's rather late for two of them but you could keelhaul the other
    two twice.
     
    Old Fart at Play, Nov 4, 2003
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  17. Paul Corfield

    Ginge Guest

    Fair enough
     
    Ginge, Nov 4, 2003
    #57
  18. Paul Corfield

    Ginge Guest

    How do you feel about artists who release remixes of their own work?
     
    Ginge, Nov 4, 2003
    #58
  19. Paul Corfield

    deadmail Guest

    Umm. No, I was suggesting any fuckers that played around with DSOTM
    should suffer a slow and agonizing death. i.e. modifying it to make it
    more 'current' should be a capital offence.

    To be a little more plain, I'm rather partial to DSOTM, WYWH and Animals
    and could do without talentless fucks screwing them up for me.
     
    deadmail, Nov 4, 2003
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  20. Paul Corfield

    deadmail Guest

    One of the supplier reps at work had the misfortune to send a corporate
    christmas card around about 5 years ago showing two kids naked from the
    shoulders up, the card was entitled "the joy of christmas".

    Naturally, we branded the supplier rep as a pervert and have continued
    to make 'tasteful' jokes on this subject for the last few years;

    "Lee took a young boy for a walk into a dark wood. The boy said "it's
    awfully dark, mister, I'm scared. Lee replied "You're scared? How do
    you think I feel, I'm the one that's got to walk out of here on my own"

    etc. etc. etc.
     
    deadmail, Nov 4, 2003
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