Regualtor/Rectifer needs replacing

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Zaphod Beeblebrox, Oct 10, 2005.

  1. If the components are accessible, that's a different story. If it is a
    sealed brick in epoxy, which I thought, then it isn't rebuildable.
     
    High Plains Thumper, Oct 13, 2005
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  2. They could use a guy like for an electrical cage mechanic, here. He
    wouldn't do any worse than one of the stealer shops here in town. :)
     
    High Plains Thumper, Oct 13, 2005
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  3. Zaphod Beeblebrox

    imagineero Guest

    Lots of good advice has been given here already, particularly the
    comments about the voltage sensing wire. I've read a few pages (no
    URL's, google for it) that gave advice on how to avoid failures on
    RR's, and relocating the sensor wire straight to the battery was high
    on the list for most. Some other manufacturers (I think BMW?) have the
    same problem and the fix is the same. I do a lot of wiring for my
    work, and the connectors even on brand new bikes is in the dark ages.
    Some new bikes _still_ have bullet connectors.... I've rewired most of
    the bikes that i planned on owning for more than 6 months, and for the
    ones i was keeping short term i just did the critical parts.

    This is really worthwhile, takes little time, not much expertise and
    only costs a few dollars. If you like your bike then i would reccomend
    replacing the wiring to the fuse box at least, and run a +12V wire
    __direct to the coils__. THis is the side that charges the coils, and
    i think you'll find on most bikes (even new ones) there is some
    resistance here. The wiring is often very small gauge, smaller than
    the lighting wires, and if you look at it on an older bike you will
    probably find the wire completely burnt out inside. The copper
    corrodes internally and turns black. For all the money people spend on
    fancy spark plugs, low impedance leads, even high performance coils,
    i've almost never met a person who looked at how the power was getting
    from the source to the coils in the first place. Replace this wiring
    with slightly heavier gauge stuff, doesnt have to be monster cable
    thick, go up one or two gauges over original. The connectors are
    usually spade bits on the coils. Give the terminals a clean up and a
    coat of dielectric grease while you're there.

    Ditto for the switching side of the coils which generally runs back to
    the CDI box, black box, computer or points if you have them. Replace
    these with the better stuff and you'll be surprised at how your bike
    starts easier. You might even find slightly better fuel economy if you
    keep track of stuff like that.

    The RR on my cbr1000 is stuffed too, and im undecided what to do. will
    look into one of the aftermarket units, but what i've also looked at
    doing is just replacing the entire charging system piecemeal. The
    alternator on a CBR1000 is outside of the engine unlike most bikes. It
    sits just behind the cylinders and is chain driven i think. This means
    there would be some potentiol for removing the whole lot and slotting
    in an alternator from a cage (gasp!). It would require appropriate
    brackets/spacers/cogs whatever, but these alternators are high output
    (up to 90A or over 1000watts on many cages) have the RR built in, run
    for donkeys years and can be had for as little as $10 from a wrecking
    yard. There are only 4 wires on most and they are pretty obvious to
    hook up. Big fat red one (sometimes bolted on) is your charge, then on
    a separate connector you've got one for a fail light (no need to
    connect) one for earth, and one that 'gets things going' and needs to
    be connected to a battery via the IGN switch. I've slotted in
    additional alternators with their own batteries in this way on boats
    and jeeps as a secondary power source, and i've also seen it done on
    two bikes though it was implemented in a pretty ugly way. On one
    suzuki rat bike a guy drilled a hole in his crankcase, welded a bit of
    rod to the crank, welded a cog onto that, then ran a chain to the
    alternator which was strapped _in front_ of the engine. Looks worse
    than it sounds. the other guy welded his straight onto the crank!

    It does seem like a lot of farting around, which is why im still
    undecided.... but if im planning to keep this bike for a few years ill
    probably do it. I like to put in big miles on my bikes, and i could
    use the extra power and reliability. Not to mention being able to get
    a straight bolt on replacement for pocket change ant any wreckers in
    the country. The machinist at work sells his time for 6 packs which
    could be a decider in the positive.

    If you're keen on possibly going the same route then send me an email.
    If we get 3 or 4 guys together i can get a small production run of
    parts made up for a bolt-on kit to put a cage alternator on a CBR1000.
    I'd do it at cost and we split the price evenly.

    Shaun
     
    imagineero, Oct 16, 2005
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  4. Zaphod Beeblebrox

    GB Guest

    What are you replying to?

    GB
     
    GB, Oct 17, 2005
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