Relative thievability of newbie bikes?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by tim.todman, Apr 12, 2005.

  1. tim.todman

    tim.todman Guest

    I'm thinking of getting a bike, but worried by it getting stolen as I
    live in a high-risk area (SW6), and I'd have to park on-street.

    Does anyone have any idea how often the usual first-big-bikes are
    stolen? I mean bikes like Bandit 600, SV650, F650 etc.

    The Met police site is fairly useless as it only records bikes by
    engine size, then gives you a colour code to indicate often that
    category is stolen.

    TIA
     
    tim.todman, Apr 12, 2005
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    dwb Guest

    "Often"
     
    dwb, Apr 12, 2005
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  3. tim.todman

    Krusty Guest

    Statistics are meaningless. It only takes one van full of pikeys
    driving past to leave you with that sinking feeling when you look out
    the window in the morning.

    If you want to keep it, chain it to an immovable object with a top
    quality chain, or find a garage to rent. Slinging a shitty old cover
    over it will help too - the dirtier & oilier the better.
     
    Krusty, Apr 12, 2005
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  4. tim.todman

    Big Tony Guest

    There's quite a high risk of theft if it is just parked on the street. This
    will be reflected in the insurance premiums you will pay.

    Many insurers will not insure the higher risk bikes unless garaged at night.

    Buy a bike magazine and ring one of the insurance brokers that advertise in
    the back pages for a quote. Just make sure you're sitting down when you
    call.
     
    Big Tony, Apr 12, 2005
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  5. In uk.rec.motorcycles, amazed us all with this pearl of wisdom:
    SW6 is quite posh in comparison to some London areas.

    Is there no pathway you can leave it up or an area where the bins are
    kept? The difference between that and leaving it on the street can be
    the difference between a high quote and no quote at all.
     
    Whinging Courier, Apr 12, 2005
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  6. tim.todman

    tim.todman Guest

    Thanks everyone for comments and suggestions. I may be able to park
    slightly off-street by the bins, though it'll annoy my snobby
    neighbours.

    The reason I asked was there's a Monster parked on the end of my
    street, and it seems to have been unmolested for a couple of years.
    Maybe it's a decoy set by the bike thieves, or maybe it's just seized
    solid to the ground.

    Thanks again.
     
    tim.todman, Apr 12, 2005
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  7. I think you'll find that's what snobby neighbours are for. There's no
    point having them if you're not going to annoy them once in a while.
     
    Lemmiwinks, The Gerbil King, Apr 12, 2005
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  8. wrote
    Thieving scrotes take bikes for two reasons:

    Grown up ones with vans take high value newish ones to break for spares
    to sell to motorcycle racing teams and track days fans

    and

    The younger scrotes take small bikes and scoots to play with over the
    park and use as barbecue fuel.



    Decide which of the target groups you best fit and tool up as
    appropriate.
     
    steve auvache, Apr 12, 2005
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  9. good chance you wont get any insurance cover if its left outside , or it
    will exclude theft from outside the house if its in a high crime area
    my policy on the blade specifies that it must be garaged overnight / when on
    my home premises

    leave a bike like the ones your looking at outside and you will be lucky to
    keep it a month there's a ready market for the parts on these bikes
     
    steve robinson, Apr 12, 2005
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  10. Who you gonna call??
     
    genuine_froggie, Apr 12, 2005
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    TimP Guest

    My bike ('99 CBR600) is insured TPO because it's parked on the street
    at night in Camden; the rats wanted an extra £900 a year for theft
    insurance, so if I manage to make it 3 years I've effectively got a
    free bike. If I make it to 3 years...


    It's covered when it's parked, and chained up to the back of my
    girlfriend's car. This choice of ground anchor may indeed be a more
    risky strategy than leaving it completely unlocked, but I'm hoping that
    the Daihatsu Charade isn't powerful enough to pull the bike over when
    she forgets it's there.
     
    TimP, Apr 12, 2005
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  12. tim.todman

    jsp Guest

    [reinserted text from higher in the thread]
    Steve Robinson wrote:
    "good chance you wont get any insurance cover if its left outside , or it
    will exclude theft from outside the house if its in a high crime area
    my policy on the blade specifies that it must be garaged overnight /
    when on
    my home premises

    leave a bike like the ones your looking at outside and you will be
    lucky to
    keep it a month there's a ready market for the parts on these bikes"


    Both of you are talking about much more stealable bikes that and SV or a
    Bandit, though. The OP has already stated that a Monster has survived
    on his street unmolested for two years, and I would have expected that
    to be higher on the 'nick me' ladder than a GSF or SV.

    FWIW (touches wood) I've had a Bandit and SV parked outside for over
    three years, not chained to anything solid atall and neither has been
    touched. Admittedly I don't live in SW anything.

    As someone has already suggested: OP, phone some insurance companies
    and find out, or try www.choicequote.co.uk for an idea. Go on to full
    quoe, as that's when it gets round to asking you about where the bike
    will be parked.

    --
    John

    SV650
    Black it is
    and naked
     
    jsp, Apr 12, 2005
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  13. Its all down to shiftablity of the bits when broken up , bandit bits shift
    quick , less likely to have any marking system on them , wider market place
     
    steve robinson, Apr 12, 2005
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  14. tim.todman

    jsp Guest

    Isn't Alphadot now standard on Bandits?

    --
    John

    SV650
    Black it is
    and naked
     
    jsp, Apr 13, 2005
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  15. most dealers mark new bikes now , but that wasn't the case a couple of
    years ago
     
    steve robinson, Apr 13, 2005
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  16. tim.todman

    jsp Guest

    Oh, okay. My '98 Bandit was Alpha dotted.

    By the way, you should snip sigs when you reply to posts, or get a
    newsreader which does it for you.

    --
    John

    SV650
    Black it is
    and naked
     
    jsp, Apr 13, 2005
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    rb Guest

    As is my P reg bandit and so was my N reg GS500e.

    From the Suzuki GB website:

    "We were the first manufacturer to introduce a free security marking
    system for new owners – Alpha.Dot – a cost effective and proven theft
    deterrent."
     
    rb, Apr 15, 2005
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