Religion, the cure for all ills?

Cunts like that, are.

No, but they're the bastards who should be torn down.
**** the lot of 'em.

 

On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 20:10:33 +0100, Colin Irvine

Oh, that was smooooooooth!

 

Well, he's not an "ethical" veggie, he just doesn't like the taste.
But he also does most of the cooking so that probably makes them quite
unusual anyway.

 

yep. though how many proc reports I can write before it gets dull I
don't know.

But I did learn something today. there's an option on a libname
statement that lets you write out other operating versions of data (ie
windows from a unix system).
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Oh, that sort of coding. Mine's a little less run-of-the-mill.

But but but, they're the same format, completely interchangeable. Have
been ever since V7. The only difference these days is between the 64
and 32 bit versions.

 

no doubt. don't you have a user req spec for a SAS operating system
type thing? we're moving to a windows server

yes but you do get warnings and it being slower on alternative OS and
we really wont mention formats.
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Hah! Sadly we've chosen the wrong product. I ain't happy, and I don't
believe it'll do the job. Vendor selection by commitee, don't you love
it?

We're fairly platform-independent now, TBH. Still using unix as the
production environment, but with (64-bit) 9.2.1 available as needed as
well as 32-bit 8.2.

Not normally. Although I can't remember off the top of my head exactly
what circustance will give you the message.

Oh well, you should know better than to be using them on datasets
anyway. And you can get rid of format errors with OPTIONS NOFMTERR;
but then you knew that.

 

<g>

<bows>

 

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This might be the most esoteric sub-thread I've ever seen on here.

Well done you two.

 

World of bore-craft.

 

Like we care what you two think?

 

and which product is that? we've started looking into environment type
stuff. my preference would be for oracle life sciences hub but I
suspect its too early for that product.

we're on PC 9.1.3 but we have a pre production version of SAS 9.2.

well this is copy from Unix samba shared onto windows share, open sas
and read it. one message per dataset.

I did too, we get the formats out of oracle as part of the extract.
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Fucking Waban.

It's shit. Really, really shit. All of its data and metadata is stored
in som magic scrambled way, perhaps a little like OC, so everythnig
needs to be set up specially to be usable, including any SAS datasets
or listing files you might want to create. So having data- or
metadata-driven outputs becomes unworkable, as you'd have to create
entries for every single possible combination.

And their idea of a controlled development environment consists of the
user developing their SAS code in interactive SAS completely outside
of the LSH environment, then cutting and pasting it (yes, really) back
into LSH when it's done.

I could go on...

Oh yeah, our does that too (in 9.2). I hadn't realised.

 

and what would you have picked?

I didn't think anyone apart from BI had used it in earnest and I've
recently recruited their developer.
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Sorry, meant to mention it. Entimice. Completely flexible, built
around open-source toolsets, using eclipsed and (IIRC) subversion.
Completely open, and the developers are really shit-hot. I did the
vendor audit for them (and Waban) and they were staggering in their
use of quality management processes. And they were prepared to tweak
stuff on the fly during demos, demonstrating the flexibility of the
product to do things in different ways, which is where Waban really
falls down.

e.g. Waban still wants everything to be in a fixed TA/Proj/Study
hierarchy. FFS, that's one of the things that holds BCE back, and one
of the basic things I'm trying to avoid, to allow completely flexible
pooling and meta-analyses.

We were going to do a site visit there, but for some reason it never
happened. But they use it as a data repository, not an analysis
environment, AIUI.

 

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Highly recomended - by me

Seems reasonable enough.