Removing hand grips ?

Tried it ? Is noice.

 

Be nice, John. It's not that bad.....if you drink enough, it makes you
dizzy!

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Hehe.

JL

 

Yairs I certainly have, it's drinkable. Not very spesh though, if you've
got him pouring virtual drinks pass over the $10-$20 rack and go to the
top shelf - crack a bottle of Veuve or Moet, Grange or a shot of
Laphroaig or Glenmorangie 18yr old.

JL

 

Oh poo, and there I was thinking the only snob/wankerism here came from bike
stuff <grin>

JL you evil bugger, what's all this grog name-drop crap?????

I must be such a bloody peasant, coz I've tried some of the top shelf stuff
and most of it made me shrug and wonder why the f*ck it cost so much (yes,
some stuff is OBVIOUS, but not all!)

peasant betty

 

Yah got me, I'm a bike snob too ! ;-)

Some of the stuff you pay top dollar for is indeed crap. Due to the
marketing types dollar cost is not a direct correlator (sp?)to quality.
However the inverse also applies if it's cheap its probably pretty
ordinary (there can be a few exceptions). The level of difference is of
course subjective (albeit tasters do have a system for ratings which are
reasonably consistent).

Whether its beer wine or spirits there are discernible differences in
qualitative attributes which most anyone can taste if you point out what
to look for. Not everyone likes the same thing though - some people
drink VB for heaven's sakes !!

My rule of thumb with wine is that I can taste the difference between a
sub $15, a 15-30 and a 25-50 bottle (aussie wines)- so I buy in that
latter range. I personally can't tell the difference between the
stratospheric and the merely very good, so I don't buy the $100+ stuff.
The exception to that is that there is no such thing as good cheap
bubbly or pinot noir (drinkable starts at $30, decent 50-75. good is
exxy). You pay to get something decent there.

On the other hand virtual drinks are free so the bangs for bucks test
need no longer be applied ;-)

Or unedjamacated ?

JL
I'll have a triple Laphroaig(1) with a splash of pure water thanks
(1) Cam how DO you pronounce that correctly?

 

I believe it is something close to 'lafroig' - someone who can describe it
phonetically will probably improve on that <google>

Hmm, Pikiwedia says "Laphroaig (pronounced "la-FROYG" or IPA: [læ?fr??k] "
er that doesn't look so good here, dunno whether that will render as
expected. Anyway, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laphroaig


Cheers

 

Did I tell you about the last time Angie and I were in Scotland, we were
staying in a hotel near Largs.

Went into bar got drink for Angie, then asked if they had Glen Morangie.

Was told, quite snootily, of course....what year would you like?

I tried the 30 year old stuff, and it was like nectar of the gods.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

JL wrote:

Laphroaig.... of course. ;-)

I don't tend to say it too often, since I am not a big fan of the heavy,
peaty type of malts, prefering the east coast whiskys.

That is not to say that I wouldn't drink more of less any of the malts.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

We got invited to a wine tasting evening from an importer of french wines.

I diligently worked my way though a range of types (and prices).

When the bloke came around to ask for a ranking, and what I prefered, I
had to honestly tell him that (with one exception) none of the wines
were what I would be looking for in a nice quaff. Many had quite
interesting bouquets and subtle flavours, but I would have them as
novelty wines.

I said that I had no doubt that the wines possessed some or all of the
characteristics that went into defining a great wine, but my tastes were
honed on the Italian wines with a more robust and heavy nature, and that
is where my preferences lay.

In other words, I don't know much about wines, but I know what I like.

Peasant? Yep.

 

You drink that stuff? You want fizz - go straight to Billicart Salmon -
you can keep your Moet and Veuve Cliquet thank you very much

(OMG - A scouser drinking champers! What next?)

N/

 

How about this for "tasting honesty".

We were in the Hunter last year and stopped for a "taste" (at least my
SO - a lover of vino collapso - did - I was driving) at McGuigans. After
starting out on the whites, my SO tried one of the reds and then told
one of the McGuigans winemakers (who was hovering) not to pour her any
more. When she was asked why she responded - "I'm sorry to say that all
four of the wines I have tried so far taste distinctly of dirt".

I haven't been game to buy a bottle of McGuigans since.

N/

 

A few years back I took my ex-wife on a whistle-stop tour of the UK via
the CAMRA (Campaign for Real Ale) accommodation guide. One of the pubs
we stayed at in Dundee had an entire wall covered in malts - I have
never seen so many in all my (not inconsiderable) years. The landlord
closed the bar on a cold and wet Wednesday night down near the Dundee
docks, locked the door and asked "would ye care for a wee dram"?

Three days later........

N/

 

You mean you admit to buying McGuigans *before*? Bottle wine at the
$10.00 price point hardly merits a tasting excursion - Chateau Cardboard
is not only much better value, it's often better wine too. Besides being
easier to transport on a motorcycle.

 

Ta, appreciated.

JL

 

<Jealous look> Bastard ! Sounds great. I've not had the 30 yr old.

JL

 

I just bought three cases of wine from my local vineyard. A 2003 Verdelho, a
2005 Chenin Verdelho, and a 2006 Shiraz. Advertised locally by letterbox
drop. They also chucked in a case of cleanskin Chenin Blanc. The whole lot
for $260. Averages $5.40 a bottle. Cellar door and in the know sales only.
It's quite quaffable.

Another peasant.

 

How do you work that out ? That's not a logical extension at all - you
scored something drinkable at cost or thereabouts for whatever reason
(probably because they don't have a commercial quantity left so it'd
cost them more than the profit to ship it). Rec retail on the above is
what - $15-25, yes ?

But to go back to the original comment, if price is no object, for
example Packer or Murdoch is paying the tab(1), would you choose your
$5 bottle ?

Which is what I said - while there is logic in doing a bangs for buck
on a daily basis, for a virtual shout why would you ask for a glass of
chateau cardboard ?

I know, I know, this is usenet, you just came here for the
argument

JL
(1) assuming you are willing to accept a drink from them...

 

Why not? They're virtually never here.

 

You're not alone... regardless of how much it cost, I consider wine a
terrible waste of what would otherwise be sweet, delicious grapes...
but, then again, there are people out there with no palate for coffee,
either.

IK,
working in North Sydney, the coffee black hole of greater Sydney.
Eight cafes within a block of the building, and none of them rate
better than a six... the only way the selection could get worse would
be if a Starbucks moved in nearby.