Request Google Satellite Photos of Known DMV Motorcycle Test Patterns

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by Johnney Rocket, Sep 7, 2007.

  1. I'm about 95% certain that the Oakland keyhole is in the shadow of
    the trees in the northeast corner.

    -Patti
     
    Patti Beadles, Sep 8, 2007
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  2. Johnney Rocket

    Timberwoof Guest

    That's too hard!
    Here's what I do.
    - Go to Google and find the DMV location: Enter your city and state,
    then search for DMV. Zoom in to the smallest or next-to-smallest scale,
    click to Satellite or Hybrid view.
    - One by one, click on the links in the list. Find the painted keyhole,
    doubleclick on it, click "Link to this page".
    - Copy & paste the link.

    Latitude and Longitude (Sorry. "GPS Coordinates" is the cool way to say
    that) are cumbersome for this purpose.
     
    Timberwoof, Sep 8, 2007
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  3. Johnney Rocket

    Timberwoof Guest

    Not all are satellite images; the smaller-scale images are just as
    likely to be from airplanes. If you look at a large-scale image, (or do
    I have that backwards?) you can sometimes see that certain regions use
    one set of photos and others use other photos. Frequently rural areas
    aren't presented in as much detail.
     
    Timberwoof, Sep 8, 2007
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  4. Johnney Rocket

    Timberwoof Guest

    Los Gatos is a "rich" community. Maybe they don't like modal cycles.
    There are plenty of DMVs not too far where motorcyclists can go, though.
     
    Timberwoof, Sep 8, 2007
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  5. Johnney Rocket

    Calvin Guest

    Ok people, When you post a long URL, please put it between "< >" . It
    keeps the link connected, not fragmented. Thanks.

    I think this is the one for Arden Hills, MN:
    <http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=mn+dmv+driving+test&sll
    =44.980342,-92.452698&sspn=1.493982,2.570801&ie=UTF8&ll=45.10438,-93.1851
    02&spn=0.002912,0.005021&t=h&z=18&om=1>
     
    Calvin, Sep 8, 2007
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  6. Johnney Rocket

    John Tubbs Guest

    There's a hidden missile silo underneath each of those painted circles!

    Seriously though, Turby, you're probably a social worker or a nurse or
    something like that so it's understandable you don't see the value in
    understanding differences and forming hypothesis and conclusions.

    If the world were populated with girls like you, we'd never have figured
    out genetics or evolution or penicillin.

    If you were Mendel, for example, you'd be bored to tears, claiming "geez
    louise, all these pea plant sure do look pretty, don't they".

    Or, if you were Darwin on the Beagle, you'd complain "Every island atoll
    looks like the next one; let's go back home."

    Or, heaven forbid, if you were Alexander Fleming you'd have disclaimed in
    disgust, "Damn. These bloody fungi have just ruined my bacteriolical
    experiments!"

    Let me guess. You're a lawyer or politician?
     
    John Tubbs, Sep 8, 2007
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  7. I like it!

    Let's start a contest titled "If Turby was a scientist, he'd _<blank>_."

    I'll start.

    If Turby was an engineer, he'd design all bridges exactly alike.
    If Turby was a teacher, he'd teach every class exactly the same.
    If Turby was a software coder, all algorithms would report the same answer.
    If (you finish the sentence)

    Turby, the point I'm making humorously is some people like you don't care
    about the differences between two blades of grass, or two photographs, or
    two opinions, etc but those that do are the ones who are intelligently
    improving the information for the rest of us. I'll bet the posters have
    learned more in the last day about the dmv test circuits by running these
    observations than you'll ever know in your entire lifetime.

    I can tell that just from the way you write. Amazing isn't it.

    Anyway, what I'm more amazed at is the fact that the two lines show up in
    the satellite photographs as a solid gray! That's utterly amazing to me!

    Look at these two photographs of the same or similar dmv site.

    This ground-level photograph shows the dmv course as two distinct lines.
    http://img72.exs.cx/img72/6595/CA_DMV_TEST_IN_PROGRESS.gif

    But the satellite shows the same or similar course as "solid" gray!
    <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=address+dmv+santa+clara+california&btnG=Google+Search#>
    3665 Flora Vista Ave Santa Clara California 95051

    It think that's an optical illusion of great interest to understand why.
    Don't you?
     
    \Dr. James Mon?\, Sep 8, 2007
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  8. Johnney Rocket

    Rich Guest

    The simple answer is that they're exactly where Congress put them. ;-}

    It's no problem to look up addresses of motor vehicle offices and then
    scan the satellite photos. The problem is that I'm not sure what to
    look for.

    Here's one from the successor to the office where I first got my Drivers
    License (Garden City, NY). Is this large cricle a test pattern?



    40.73981727957134, -73.60829919576645

    Rich, Urban Biker
     
    Rich, Sep 8, 2007
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    Ted Edwards Guest

    There are many forms for GPS Coordinates e.g. UTM. Lat/lon is just one
    of them. What's more coordinates can be found in many ways. GPS is
    just one of the better ones. :)

    Ted
     
    Ted Edwards, Sep 8, 2007
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  10. Johnney Rocket

    J. Clarke Guest

    Here's Enfield, CT--you can't really see anything much--the test area
    is the empty space in the parking lot to the lower left

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=...-105.009588&spn=0.001306.003771&t=h&z=18&om=1

    I also took a ride down there today and shot these

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157601922951463/

    Unfortunately I had a telephoto lens on the camera and didn't feel
    like riding home to change lenses and riding back, so they don't
    really give a feel for the layout, just details. If anybody really
    really wants to see the whole thing let me know and I'll take another
    run.
     
    J. Clarke, Sep 8, 2007
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  11. Johnney Rocket

    Timberwoof Guest

    Wow. Enfield all the way to Denver in a single day. Ride Report! :)

    Well, I don't blame you. That's a long ride back to get a lens. ;-)
     
    Timberwoof, Sep 8, 2007
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  12. Johnney Rocket

    J. Clarke Guest

    Dunno, whole thing's kind of a blur. Bugs at Mach 2 _hurt_. On the
    way back I must have passed a hundred cops who were going west at high
    speed. Told the dealer that I was _not_ gonna buy that 'Busa unless
    he fixed the throttle. He gave me a song and dance about the stain on
    the seat but I stood firm. Didn't like his attitude so I left :)

    Seriously, I pasted the wrong link. Try this one

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=...9&spn=0.003105,0.004329&t=h&z=18&iwloc=A&om=1

    If that's still Denver I'll pull a copy and put it up on Flickr.
     
    J. Clarke, Sep 9, 2007
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    barb Guest

    If Turby was a Scientologist, he'd say I pulled in my back problem
    and offer to fix it for several hundred thousand bucks.

    --
    barb
    Chaplain, ARSCCwdne

    buy my book!
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    read my blog!
    http://xenubarb.blogspot.com/
     
    barb, Sep 9, 2007
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  14. Johnney Rocket

    barb Guest

    Check this one out:
    http://maps.google.com/maps?client=...l&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&channel=s&tab=wl&q=

    This is Scientology's armed compound north of Hemet, california.
    That big circle is their "running program" site, where bad clams are
    forced to spend up to 14 hours a day running around the palm tree in the
    hot sun for punishment.

    Doc Wong will never have the privilege. He's a paying public. This abuse
    is reserved for the very dedicated who join the Sea Org and devote their
    whole lives into serving the cult.

    --
    barb
    Chaplain, ARSCCwdne

    buy my book!
    http://stores.lulu.com/store.php?fAcctID=1198812

    read my blog!
    http://xenubarb.blogspot.com/
     
    barb, Sep 9, 2007
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  15. Johnney Rocket

    Timberwoof Guest

    No, it isn't. That link contains no information about location.
     
    Timberwoof, Sep 9, 2007
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  16. Johnney Rocket

    Driver's Ed Guest

    Check out the Rahway New Jersey DMV testing site!

    If you think two parking spaces are a bit small for the California keyhole,
    you'll think you'll run out of petrol on the NJ course!

    Yikes! You could fit a half dozen Boeing 747s in the New Jersey DMV test
    pattern here - they might even find Steve Fossett somewhere on the NJ DMV
    course!

    I ran the suggested program on "1140 Woodbridge Rd, Rahway, NJ 07065"
    javascript:void(prompt('',gApplication.getMap().getCenter()));
    which shows the NJ DMV test course location to paste into google as
    (40.597213609386124, -74.26971852779388)

    Good Gawd. They have it easy in NJ!
     
    Driver's Ed, Sep 9, 2007
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    Paul Elliot Guest

    Arrgghh! The resolution is too crappy for the Santa Teresa DMV in San Jose.
    :p

    --
    Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics
    German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.

    Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics
    French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by Italians.

    http://new.photos.yahoo.com/paul1cart/albums/
     
    Paul Elliot, Sep 10, 2007
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  18. I can't seem to get any of the long urls to work without resorting to
    editing them and deleting the multi-line spaces. Ug.

    I wish there were a SIMPLER SHORT GPS URL for you guys!

    If you have a SHORT GPS URL that will handle the coordinates pasted into
    maps.google.com, that would be useful to us all.

    For example, these coordinates are for the Arden Hills, MN DMV:
    45.104020013219106, -93.18535655736923

    Does anyone have a short google map url for this (sans tinyurl.com)?
     
    Johnney Rocket, Sep 11, 2007
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  19. I agree. San Jose must be impoverished.

    I can't find the DMV keyhole for any San Jose office.

    Santa Teresa DMV, 180 Martinvale Lane, San Jose, 95119 (800) 777-0133
    37.229427158582, -121.7797189950943
    +37 degrees 13' 45.94", -121 degrees 46' 46.99"
    http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4700/dmvkeyholesantatheresasgi1.gif

    Looking up nearby DMVs, at http://www.dmv.ca.gov/fo/offices/toc_fo.htm we
    see this next closest San Jose DMV seems to have the same lack of lollipop!

    Alma Ave DMV, 111 W. Alma Ave, San Jose, 95110 (800) 777-0133
    37.315166462766875, -121.87707781791687
    +37 degrees 18' 54.60", -121 degrees 52' 37.48"

    We already covered the nearby Los Gatos DMV which shows a BOX instead of a
    lollipop it seems, unless the keyhole is hidden under trees somewhere where
    a ground operative can find it for us.
    Los Gatos DMV, 600 N. Santa Cruz Ave, Los Gatos, 95030 (800) 777-0133
    37.233711103757315, -121.97851896286011
    +37? 14' 1.36", -121? 58' 42.67"
    http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dmvkeyholelosgatoscadx0.gif

    Luckily, there is always the nearby Santa Clara lollipop.
    Santa Clara DMV, 3665 Flora Vista Ave, Santa Clara, 95051 (800) 777-0133
    37.350347, -121.993639
    +37 degrees 21' 1.25", -121 degrees 59' 37.10"
    http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dmvkeyholesantaclaracafl4.gif

    Can someone on the ground determine if San Jose even has a lollipop?
     
    Johnney Rocket, Sep 11, 2007
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  20. Oops. Forgot to post the Alma Avenue satellite photograph.

    Alma Ave DMV, 111 W. Alma Ave, San Jose, 95110 (800) 777-0133
    37.315166462766875, -121.87707781791687
    +37 degrees 18' 54.60", -121 degrees 52' 37.48"
    http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dmvkeyholealmaavesanjossd1.gif

    One thing I noticed is that the javascript doesn't work well in other
    browsers than Firefox so bear that in mind when you're centering the
    picture using the right-click button in maps.google.com and when you're
    obtaining the exact centerpoint using the javascript
    javascript:void(prompt('',gApplication.getMap().getCenter()));
     
    Johnney Rocket, Sep 11, 2007
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