Returning to Motor Cycling after 30 years

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by John Dwyer, Nov 29, 2003.

  1. John Dwyer

    John Dwyer Guest

    I offer the following for anyone interested in returning to motorcycling
    after a substantial break.

    I took delivery of a new Suzuki GS500 today after 30 years away from motor
    cycling. While the machine is learner legal, it seems to have adequate
    performance at least for the time being. I am pleased that I did not buy
    anything more powerful. 100km/h requires about 5000 rpm with the red line
    at 11000. It looks like it will cruise at the legal limit of 110 km/h
    without difficulty.

    John Dwyer
    John Dwyer, Nov 29, 2003
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    Nev.. Guest

    I offer the following for anyone interested in returning to motorcycling after
    a substantial break.

    Apparently, you're in a very high risk category of motorcycle riders.
    Everyone here will strongly recommend that you go to HART, Stay Upright or one
    of the other motorcycle rider training organisations and receive some
    professional tuition to make your riding experience a safer and more enjoyable

    Welcome back.

    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
    Nev.., Nov 29, 2003
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    conehead Guest

    Welcome back, John. May the happiest days of your life be just about to

    Did you know that Hammo has a VTR250 for sale?
    conehead, Nov 29, 2003
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    conehead Guest

    Nev will tell you which courses give the best advice on trowelling big-bore
    conehead, Nov 29, 2003
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    It's probably got the horsepower of an 850 Commando with tons better brakes
    and comfort.
    Who needs more?
    Knobdoodle, Nov 29, 2003
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    John Littler Guest

    Good onya mate, welcome back to the fold.

    Learner legal doesn't make your dick drop off so don't worry about that, it's
    more important to be riding a bike you can learn on and bring your skills up on
    than something that scares the bejasus out of you so much you're scared to twist
    the throttle.

    The GS is a good honest bike and capable of providing a lot of fun, hope you
    enjoy yourself.

    John Littler, Nov 30, 2003
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    Manning Guest

    I can only echo Nev's sage advice - I'm doing some work for IAG (Insurance
    Australia Group) and I took the time to research the bike stats, and
    returning motorcyclists such as yourself are among the highest risk
    operators of any vehicle/age. Please go and do a HART or Stay Upright or
    similar course for your own sake.

    Manning, Nov 30, 2003
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    Burnie M Guest

    What you need now is experience (or 're-experience').

    I recommend that you ride every day. 20-30 minutes is enough. Just get
    used to the bike and riding again. Weekend rides alone won't give you
    this. Commuting is good and will teach you a lot about traffic
    (everything you know from car driving is not valid).

    Ride within your own limits.
    Scretch yourself in small steps and you will be fine.

    ....and don't forget the sun screen.

    Burnie M
    Burnie M, Nov 30, 2003
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    John Littler Guest

    "Trust me on the sunscreen"

    John Littler, Nov 30, 2003
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    John Dwyer Guest


    Thanks for the information. I have already enrolled in the Stay Upright
    course for learners and a course for experienced riders returning after a
    long break. I anticipate benefiting from both courses.

    John Dwyer.
    John Dwyer, Nov 30, 2003
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    Biggus Guest

    Welcome back, at least you are smart enough to realise you dont need
    the latest greatest sports bike!

    Take it easy out there, car drivers are 1000000000000% more fucked
    than 10 years ago let alone 30!
    Biggus, Nov 30, 2003
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    John Dwyer Guest

    Thanks for the advice. I am lucky to have a good idea of these problems as
    I have covered about 25000 km in Canberra on a bicycle over the past seven

    I have been close to being knocked off my bicycle on several occasions
    because drivers claim, despite the bright clothing that I wear, that they do
    not see me. They make this claim even when I approach on their right and
    they do not have any screen pillars to obstruct their vision. We have an
    urgent need to build simple driving simulators out of PC games technology
    and have everyone assessed at licence renewal time, about every five years.

    That I can hold a motorcycle rider's licence for 30 years, not ride during
    that time and climb on any maching that I care to buy is worrying, just as
    it is worrying to see the number of car drivers who demonstrate absolutely
    no roadcraft.

    A number of changes are required.

    It is great to be back on two wheels.

    John Dwyer
    John Dwyer, Dec 1, 2003
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    sardo numspa Guest

    great to see another rider back.

    but yep, please take it easy

    according to two wheels magazine, the number of over 50 deaths is up by
    something like 80% over the last decade (if i get the stats wrong, please
    correct me).
    sardo numspa, Dec 1, 2003
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    Dave Mojo67 Guest

    Welcome back to the fold.

    The Fizzer is flouro orange like a traffic cone and its lights are always on
    on. You'd think it would be impossible not to see me, but they just don't.

    Do a course, learn the tricks about where to stay in a lane to maximise your
    visibility, get eye contact at intersections, all that defensive driving

    Stay safe, and don't be one of those stats.
    Dave Mojo67, Dec 1, 2003
  15. In on Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:19:39 +1100
    The number of riders over 50 in crashes has climbed, yes.

    But the percentage of riders over 50 who crash has dropped.

    In other words, the baby boom strikes again! THere are more riders over
    50 than there ever were, so there is going to be more crashes involving
    riders over 50. But percentage wise, there are not crashing as much
    as their numbers suggest, and not crashing as much as other age grouos,
    say the infamous under 25s.

    When they crash, it tends to be single vehicle, possibly because they have
    traffic smarts gained over many years of driving and so can avoid the
    problems less experienced riders have with cars. Multi-vehicle crashes
    have a higher chance of being fatal than single vehicle ones.

    I have no hard figures (the RTA ain't releasing them officially or
    unofficially, mainly because they don't have them and their crash stats
    gathering sucks anyway) but from what I can gather the single vehicle
    crashes aren't mostly "bornagain on big sportbike that's so different
    to his old Triumph" but more "cruiser rider gets the brakes or the
    cornering wrong". Possibly because there seems to be more cruiser
    riders than bigbore sportbike riders in that age group.

    That is all *major* speculation though, there's no good figures on who
    rides what and how much, and very few on what was being ridden and the
    cause of the crash beyond ticking the "speed" box.

    Definitely any new or returning rider of any age should be doing rider
    training. Especially if they've been driving cars for 30 years, some
    fatals have *definitely* been tied to the car driving reflex of stomping
    hard with the foot on the brake. Therefore locking the back wheel and
    either not using the front or not being able to control the skid.

    Zebee Johnstone, Dec 1, 2003
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    Conehead Guest

    Well said, Zebee.

    Conehead, Dec 1, 2003
  17. They _will_ pull out in front of you sometimes... Be prepared to deal
    with it when it happens - being "in the right" doesn't stop it from

    Iain Chalmers, Dec 2, 2003
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Zebee Johnstone" wrote
    I'm a coupla years too old to be a 'boomer', so I must be safe. :)

    Theo Bekkers, Dec 2, 2003
  19. and another Doug quote:

    "Except maybe that lights-on don't do shit, even if you're bright red, 17
    tonnes and howling like a banshee"

    If they aren't looking, they won't see you.

    If they aren't expecting to see you they won't see you.

    Noise and bright colours are trying to catch their attention, if they
    haven't got any, you won't catch it...

    And even if they *do* see you, there's no guarantee they will give way.
    They may decide to chance their luck, they may decide they have right of

    Expect that most drivers will do the right thing, be ready for the ones
    that don't. Create buffer zones to give yourself time, and know what
    you are going to do and where you are going to go when they don't do
    the right thing.

    Zebee Johnstone, Dec 2, 2003
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    John Littler Guest

    Not, <gasp!> preplanned responses !!

    John Littler, Dec 2, 2003
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