Riding a 250cc on the freeway?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Tony Morris, Jan 11, 2004.

  1. Tony Morris

    Tony Morris Guest

    The TA200 is a "harley-like" thing (Honda).

    --
    Tony Morris
    (BInfTech, Cert 3 I.T., SCJP[1.4], SCJD)
    Software Engineer
    IBM Australia - Tivoli Security Software


     
    Tony Morris, Jan 12, 2004
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  2. Tony Morris

    Eman Mean Guest

    I've got an '87 Honda CBR250R and I can cruise in any wind, comfortably at
    120km/h. I currently weigh 110kgs, and I've taken my bike up to 165km/h,
    only slowing down for fear of loosing my licence if I got caught. At
    100km/h, the revs sit at 8500rpm in 6th gear. It redlines at 17500rpm. It's
    got pretty good acceleration from 4000rpm, and great acceleration from about
    6500rpm (for a 250cc of course). There are no vibrations, or high pitched
    screams at cruising speed. With 250's, you gotta keep the revs in the right
    range if you want instant power available, otherwise they can take a while
    to get them where you want to be...

    EM
     
    Eman Mean, Jan 12, 2004
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  3. Throttle wide open most of the weekend (for all the good *that* did...)
    And there was no "Longest Distance,Smallest cc" award---bugger....
    Used no oil,and not much fuel.
    Handling not too flash with bulk weight over the back wheel,but got the job
    done.

    The hills seemed a lot steeper,and the overtaking lanes a lot shorter,than I
    remembered.....


    Still Vibrating Pat
    900km or so later
     
    Pat Heslewood, Jan 12, 2004
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  4. Tony Morris

    Sandgroper Guest

    Any Honda dealer / workshop should be able to obtain the jets and fit them.

    I am in WA and I got the jets fitted by Prestige Honda , the dealership
    where I brought the bike from new.
    It cost me about $130 for parts and labour to fit them fitted , $28 for the
    two jets and the $100 odd for the labour ( 1 hr )
     
    Sandgroper, Jan 12, 2004
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    John Littler Guest

    Errm what's the difference between being fat and being heavy ? I would have
    thought fat was a subset of heavy (as you could also be heavy through being a
    serious body builder or a deformed Tasmanian without too many limbs and heads)

    JL
    (fuggoff anyway :)
     
    John Littler, Jan 12, 2004
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    sharkey Guest

    They charge extra to change the gearing, though ...

    HARSH WEEK!

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Jan 12, 2004
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    bob Guest

    Yeah true but I did say its good to have another option. :)
     
    bob, Jan 12, 2004
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  8. Tony Morris

    Nev.. Guest

    This was the same bike which was pushing shit uphill achieving a max speed of
    80kph in 3rd gear into a headwind on the highway on the way to Mildura last
    year with about 100kg of rider and luggage on board right?

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Jan 12, 2004
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  9. Tony Morris

    JS9 Guest

    I own a CB250 and occasionally ride it on the freeway ....
    The Cycle magazine CB250 road test tached the CB at 6555rpm going 60mph.
    I've wired up a digital TinyTach to my CB and at 65mph it's spinning about
    6900, at 70 the numbers were dancing around 7300. Max horsepower is reached
    at 8000 revs (max torque at 6500) and the redline starts about 8500 rpm.
    Compared to scooters like the 14K rpm EX250, the CB is not spinning all that
    fast.

    The bike will easily tolerate a drop of one or two teeth at the rear
    sprocket giving it longer legs for the highway.

    As with any naked bike. Fit a screen and tank bag.
     
    JS9, Jan 12, 2004
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  10. Tony Morris

    JS9 Guest

    Replace the #35 slow jet with a #38 and replace #110 main jet with a
    #115.
    Part numbers from the US CB250 parts catalog:
    #38 -- 99103-KR3-0380
    #115 -- 99101-GHB-1150

    It's been my experience that these jets combined tend to be too rich. The
    CB suffers from lean low rpm carburetion, but the top end is adequate. You
    could run just the #38 pilot jet to hasten warm-up, eliminate off-idle
    stumbles and improve low rev torque, and then shim the needle to dial-in
    high revs for that nice tan spark plug. OR, simply reset the pilot screw
    (airscrew) and shim the needle. At the Yahoo group the shim mod is
    described and illustrated in the Files using a single .024" washer. You can
    pull the top off the carb for the mod without having to remove the entire
    carburetor like you would for the jet swap.

    /Jon

    http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/CB250_Nighthawk
     
    JS9, Jan 12, 2004
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    sharkey Guest

    Yebbut, unless the blood of Honda has lessened, even a fuckerty
    CB250 isn't redlined at 100 in top. Sure, sure 6-7k out of a
    9-10k redline, which doesn't say "casual" to me either.

    And Freeways don't tend to go up hill[1] and down dale[2],
    so odds are Morphet is not going to have to change down
    to fourth for his 24 minute commute, and can thus avoid the
    merry song of the bouncing valve no matter his weight.

    Anyway, I'm yet to be convinced that soundly flogging
    (uh, below the redline) a (modern, japanese) bike is actually
    bad for it, so long as it gets properly maintained.

    -----sharks

    [1] At least not in Victoria, you Foreigners might have got
    this wrong
    [2] Funny, we were just talking about Cat ... :)
     
    sharkey, Jan 12, 2004
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  12. Tony Morris

    sharkey Guest

    Also rolling friction, mainly due to tyre displacement.
    You can, to an extend, negate this with a bit of extra air
    in the tyres. It's amazing the difference this makes to
    a low-HP bike ...

    .... and yes, JL, getting up hills takes a bit of a run-up :)

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Jan 12, 2004
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  13. On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:41:20 UTC, Iain Chalmers

    } In article <>,
    }
    } > Tony Morris wrote:
    } >
    } > >
    } > > "this bike would not be appropiate for 100kmh speed for long periods"
    } > > agreed.
    } >
    } > Horseshit.
    }
    } Well, I'm not sure I've ever done more than 6 or 7 hours continuous at
    } 100kmh+ on the Spada (less then 2 hours if you don't ignore petrol
    } stops), and I've rarely done more than 3 1000km days in a row...
    }
    } It all depends on what you mean by "long periods"...
    }
    } big (Maybe Tony is a geologist?)

    In that case even single-digit kms per hour would be blisteringly
    fast.

    --
    // Rik Steenwinkel '85 R80ST Skippy bike
    // Enschede '91 R100GS/PD The Great Unwashed
    // Netherlands ('76 Honda CB250G Bouwpakketje)
    // "Far away is only far away '90 K75C Kommutabike
    // if you don't go there" '81 MZ TS250/1+LSW Badkuip
     
    Rik Steenwinkel, Jan 12, 2004
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  14. In aus.motorcycles on 12 Jan 2004 20:23:38 GMT

    Speed cameras for continental drift?

    Zebee
    - who suspects that the revenue raised would be eaten by inflation
    before the ticket is processed.
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jan 12, 2004
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  15. Tony Morris

    BT Humble Guest

    Well, that fat kid of "Hey Dad" probably wasn't all that heavy at the time...
    Cheerio! :-D


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jan 12, 2004
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  16. Tony Morris

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Gary Woodman" wrote
    That's cheating Gary. Did you check the manual for the Sherman? I'm
    sure it's 204 kg.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jan 12, 2004
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  17. Tony Morris

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Dave_H" wrote
    Boeing have heaps of jets.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jan 12, 2004
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  18. Tony Morris

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "John Littler" wrote
    It IS still harsh week John.
    rev range

    But you'll go faster downhill.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jan 12, 2004
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  19. Tony Morris

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "John Littler" wrote
    Fat is being heavy for your height. And, if it's your brother, he's
    not heavy.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jan 12, 2004
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  20. Tony Morris

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    I had a company car in the early sixties that had trouble maintaining
    80 km/h with a headwind on the Freeway.

    Theo
    What idiot thought a Fiat 500 would be OK for a company car? (Hint:
    the same guy who decided on Mini's).
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jan 12, 2004
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