Riding like a girl. Is there a cure?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Gyp, Jan 22, 2006.

  1. Gyp

    Monkey Guest

    What others have said - at the cheap end of the scale is a bikesafe course,
    which will improve your road-awareness, and not leave you so worried about
    going into corners too hot. Next up on the price scale is a trackday -
    riding the same 'bit of road' over and over again in a safe-ish environment
    does wonders for confidence. Get a lap or two with an instructor once you've
    found your feet. If money's not a worry, then some proper instruction on a
    track - California Superbike School gets consistently good reviews, but
    expect to spend £400+
     
    Monkey, Jan 23, 2006
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  2. Gyp

    Pip Guest

    [Gyp]
    If you're having his bikes and his burd, I'll have his wife.

    You'd best take the sprog, too.
     
    Pip, Jan 23, 2006
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  3. Gyp

    Pip Guest

    <eyebrows shoot up>

    In my defence, I think it is because I'm not a 'natural' rider. I've
    not been at it that long (compared to a lot of greybeards round here)
    and I have had to work at it. I'm an anal SOB and I like to do things
    right, by my rules and I like to do what I do *well* - or I don't
    bother. So I analyse, read other opinions, talk about it and go and
    do it - then analyse again. And keep practising, and if I find what I
    think is a good way to do something, tell other people about it and
    await their feedback.

    I reckon this approach has made me a decently quick rider, although
    I'll never approach the speed of the 'instinctive' riders that are
    either reincarnated racers (Daz, for example) or those who were on a
    bike while still in nappies (Champ, Bonwick, Loz). I'm happy riding
    my own ride, at the back of the fast group or the front of the medium
    group. I've not gone hedgebound yet, so something is working.

    Building and driving cars with more power than the maker intended has
    helped a lot (despite what is commonly accepted, I find that car
    experience can cross over into riding a bike) insofar as smoothness
    and balancing brakes against throttle - and being in the right gear at
    the right time goes.

    Get on the right line, get braking and gearchanging done with, settle
    down and tip it in. Never **** with anything mid-corner except gently
    winding throttle on, and as soon as the apex is past (vanishing point
    opens) slap the gas on. If the rear steps out, let it. If the front
    lifts, go with it. Do nothing to unsettle the bike and it will get
    you down the straight as fast as just about any other fucker you're
    riding with ... providing you have a bike with the power to do it, of
    course.

    Knowing your bike and being one with it, which only comes with miles
    and hours, is vital if you want to be reasonable, IMHO. Practice,
    practice - and think about what you're doing and how you've done it:
    self-criticism is the way forward. I was taught to ride by uk.r.m.,
    specifically Paul Corfield, AndyR and Bear. I aspire to riding like
    Champ, Bear and Bonwick, but that is unlikely in the extreme as I
    don't want to go through the crashing they had to do to find the edge
    of the ragged edge.

    I ride my own ride and if any fucker don't like it, they can go ****
    themselves.
     
    Pip, Jan 23, 2006
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  4. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    Erm... Have I got one of those..?
     
    Gyp, Jan 23, 2006
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  5. Gyp

    Lozzo Guest

    Pip said...
    While you're off chasing Gyp's non-existant wife, Champ and I will be
    fighting over his lovely girlfriend. I'll win cos I like kids.

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    Lozzo, Jan 23, 2006
    #25
  6. A day's instruction with JP or Dave Corden.
     
    Paul Corfield, Jan 23, 2006
    #26
  7. I am rather boggled to see my name in lights alongside other people who
    *can* ride a bike. Not sure why I deserve any sort of mention.
     
    Paul Corfield, Jan 23, 2006
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  8. Gyp

    Big Dave Guest

    The first step on the way to dealing with a problem, is admitting you have
    one.......
    FWIW - I'm riding exactly the same as you at present:
    ie: Like a complete pillock.

    Dave
     
    Big Dave, Jan 23, 2006
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  9. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    You could be right. I was telling SWMBO how I'd been stroking one of the
    girls-at-work's Manolo Blahniks and she had absolutely no idea what I
    was talking about.
     
    Gyp, Jan 23, 2006
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  10. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    My name's Gyp and I'm a straightlineaholic :)
    Yeah, I don't think I'm the only one...
     
    Gyp, Jan 23, 2006
    #30
  11. Gyp

    Pip Guest

    "Riding in traffic"
     
    Pip, Jan 23, 2006
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  12. Gyp

    Pip Guest

    Bollocks. I knew one of us had it wrong - and I should have known it
    would be me ...
     
    Pip, Jan 23, 2006
    #32
  13. neither had I

    <googles>

    how much...?

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    Adrienne M Bonwick, Jan 23, 2006
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  14. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    You're just not gay enough.
     
    Gyp, Jan 23, 2006
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  15. Adrienne M Bonwick, Jan 23, 2006
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  16. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    There's a lot of good stuff talked here on occasion.
    True. I didn't cover many miles last year and I've only done a few miles
    on the Zed since buying it so I guess going out on a winter afternoon is
    not the best time to expect to go from zero to hero.
    Good point. I'm still doing the "oooh look how the horizon gets closer
    when I twist this handle" and arriving at the corners too fast.
    I'm used to that on the Harley. I do pull the handle, mind :)
    Oh, I've done that. Bikesafe, 1-1 with police instructor, race school
    etc.

    I think the best plan is to slow it down and get lots more practice. And
    wait for summer. And try and forget that I used to be faster
     
    Gyp, Jan 23, 2006
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  17. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    I'd stroke your feet...
     
    Gyp, Jan 23, 2006
    #37
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    Molly Guest

    Buy a cheap under powered bike and ride that for a while. You will have to
    maintain a higher cornering speed just to keep up. This will remove your
    reliance on point and squirt. The GS 500 is ideal for this.
     
    Molly, Jan 24, 2006
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  19. i don't like having my feet touched! worst thing ever was going to a
    fetish club and having someone ask [1] if they could kiss my thigh
    boots and proceeded to french kiss up and down both sides.

    ugh!

    [1] actually they asked Dave if it was ok.

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    Adrienne M Bonwick, Jan 24, 2006
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  20. Adrienne M Bonwick, Jan 24, 2006
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