rings or bearings or ???

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Damien, Mar 9, 2007.

  1. Damien

    Damien Guest

    Yes, #1 and #2. I pulled #3 and #4 just then, and they're both pretty
    black but that's from fouling due to the troubles of getting it
    started in the first place. Only the first two were really oily. So I
    guess a compression test is definitely the next step then, as that
    will give some better info on what is going on. I will put the new
    plugs in and try running it for a short time and then check them -
    that should be enough to confirm if it is just those two cylinders
    that are a problem.

    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> F650/R1200GS (when the $$$ are there!)
     
    Damien, Mar 11, 2007
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  2. Damien

    Damien Guest

    Well, it runs fine with new plugs in it. Just waiting for everything
    to cool down a bit before I pull the plugs out again to see what state
    they're in. Compression check will still have to wait until I can
    actually get a tester.

    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> F650/R1200GS (when the $$$ are there!)
     
    Damien, Mar 11, 2007
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    atec 77 Guest

    I am thinking possible blow by and take a look at breather blocks , it's
    also quite possible some oil wicked past the dodgy guide seals you
    installed dependant on the lean when parked .
     
    atec 77, Mar 11, 2007
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  4. Damien

    Damien Guest

    How do you mean?

    And what do you mean by "dodgy"? :p

    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> F650/R1200GS (when the $$$ are there!)
     
    Damien, Mar 11, 2007
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  5. Damien

    Damien Guest

    I just pulled the plugs, and they look just fine after the 10 minute
    ride I went for earlier. Would it reasonable to assume that if it was
    a rings problem, there would be some sign of oil, or would it take
    more than that? A compression test to be absolutely certain is
    probably still a very good idea, I would think.

    As for the "dodgy" seals, wouldn't that have showed up as a problem a
    lot earlier, rather than 18 months down the track (at least in terms
    of anything that could be connected to the work I had done)? It's
    pretty obvious I'm no mechanic, but surely there would have been some
    indications previously that something was amiss, rather than a bike
    that has been running trouble free until the problem first surfaced a
    week or so ago?

    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> F650/R1200GS (when the $$$ are there!)
     
    Damien, Mar 11, 2007
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    atec 77 Guest

    Well it's simple , the guides are meant to seal reasonably well , now
    the replacement rubber seal might keep some out but they will wick some
    as well , so was the bike left on a lean ? might be the solution as
    even new seals wont be a guarantee of oil tightness no matter how hard
    you want it to , removing the head if the compression is good and
    repairing the guides either through a knurl or replacement may be an option/
     
    atec 77, Mar 11, 2007
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  7. Damien

    atec 77 Guest

    I winder if it would show so easily , oil consumption may in fact be
    aggravated blow back , do the compression check warm and cold with and
    without extra oil on the bore and compare the results.
    how long was it leaning and were the lower cylinders the problem ?
    its quite possible some oil has collected around the valves and
    dribbled into those cylinders that are lower ? hence you quandary but
    the motor may well run fine for years with un-noticeable oil passage
    past the guides if you don't leave it for days unstated .
    follow ?
     
    atec 77, Mar 11, 2007
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  8. Damien

    Damien Guest

    It does appear to only have been the lower cylinders that were the
    problem, and the bike is usually parked sideways on a slope with the
    lower cylinders on the downhill side. I've now got it parked facing up
    the slope instead, so we'll see if that makes any difference - means a
    bit more stuffing around manouvering to park, but worth the hassle if
    that's what the issue actually was. I'll get a compression tester next
    pay and check that out then. Thanks.

    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> F650/R1200GS (when the $$$ are there!)
     
    Damien, Mar 11, 2007
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    BT Humble Guest

    You need a centrestand, you do! ;-)


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Mar 11, 2007
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  10. Damien

    BT Humble Guest

    It's a really nice bike to ride (compared to anything else I've owned)
    but since she's only just reached the 1,000km service I can't really
    comment on its long-term performance yet.

    If I were you I'd be more inclined to spend a few hundred and sort out
    the bike you've got - no sense getting a new one if you're only going
    to do 2,000km per year on it.


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Mar 11, 2007
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  11. Damien

    Damien Guest

    No need to tell me twice! :) Just need to find one for the right
    price.

    Damien
    GPX250 -> CBR600 -> F650/R1200GS (when the $$$ are there!)
     
    Damien, Mar 11, 2007
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    Nev.. Guest

    Stick a suitably sized lump of wood under the stand and park it the
    normal way.

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Mar 11, 2007
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    The answer is Hammo. Or is that the question?

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Mar 11, 2007
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  14. Damien

    Kevin(Bluey) Guest


    Three fiddy.
     
    Kevin(Bluey), Mar 12, 2007
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  15. Damien

    Kevin(Bluey) Guest


    Check for crappy fuel


    Kevin (Bluey)
    "I'm not young enough to know everything."

     
    Kevin(Bluey), Mar 12, 2007
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