Road Rage: What do you do? What should you do?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Christofire, May 12, 2005.

  1. Christofire

    Christofire Guest

    The other week I had an incident where a bloke chased me for about 8
    miles. The whole thing was started off by me changing lanes to the
    left and preventing matey from undertaking a line of traffic on a
    roundabout[1]. During the whole episode he tailgated for about 1/4
    mile, pulled alongside and swerved at me twice, swerved across two
    lanes of traffic[2], attempted to block my path and got out (being a
    bit shouty), chased me again performing some ludicrous overtakes (one
    involving an oncoming bus).

    From the way he was driving he was furious over something, and all
    reason appeared to be on leave. I managed to lose him round a twisty
    bit that I know well. Had I not had this option what the hell are you
    supposed to do? I was in the car, he was in a much more powerful car
    [3]. Without local knowledge I doubt I'd have been able to lose him,
    and considering the lengths he was going to to stop me I'm not sure
    proceeding through the morning commuter/school jams to the local police
    station would've gotten me very far.

    I've now got matey's registration. He ended up behind me in an exact
    copy of the original situation, and sure enough he tailgated me, then
    as soon as we'd left the junction I let him go where he nearly drove
    into the back of another car after flooring it to get past. Happily,
    this morning he just drove off.

    So, what's the procedure in this? The only thing I did to make the
    situation worse was to mouth "very mature" with a thumbs up after the
    swerving bit. I apologised at the start, even though I thought it was
    his fault. What I did worked, but there's no lesson to be learned for
    the future. I'm interested in the BHaLC, police/legal and any
    contrasting opinions.

    [1] I was turning right on a roundabout and positioning for my exit.
    I'd passed matey as he was stationary in his junction. When I checked
    it was clear, so I signalled and moved. I might have missed something
    but the most I'd give him is 50/50.
    [2]As I was leaving a 2 lane motorway he went from lane 2 to lane 1 on
    the sliproad, cutting up two lanes of traffic.
    [3] Lexus LS400 according to the RAC, had a v8 badge on the back.
    Christofire, May 12, 2005
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    Ginge Guest

    You could call 999 whilst driving, and arrange where to meet up with the
    boys in blue.
    Ginge, May 12, 2005
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  3. Christofire

    Christofire Guest

    At the time there was a problem with this - my mobile was in the boot
    (it's not anymore). Would the police take it seriously? Wouldn't they
    take a dim view of me tanking along on the phone?
    Christofire, May 12, 2005
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    Muck Guest


    Maybe the thing to do, is let people drive their own drives, unless it
    puts you in real danger, thus avoiding making a bad situation worse for
    Muck, May 12, 2005
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    Krusty Guest

    It depends on what you want to achieve. If you want to just go back to
    a happy care-free life, just ignore him & he'll probably stop doing it
    once he's got it out of his system.

    If you want revenge, get someone else to go in the car with you, wind
    up matey so he flips again, & get your passenger to video the results.
    That should see him off the road for dangerous driving.
    Krusty, May 12, 2005
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    ogden Guest

    But for God's sake use a hands-free kit or you'll *both* be in trouble!
    ogden, May 12, 2005
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    Vass Guest

    Lead him to the local cop shop
    Vass, May 12, 2005
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    Krusty Guest

    I did this once after someone tried to force me off the M4. The
    response was "we haven't got anyone in the area". The fact it was going
    to be at least 15 minutes until we got to the next junction didn't make
    a difference - still "nobody in the area".
    Krusty, May 12, 2005
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    Ginge Guest

    Well, firstly why tank along... so long as you're moving faster than he
    could run it'll be impossible for him to drag you out of the car.
    Secondly, if people's lives are being put at risk it's a legit reason to
    Ginge, May 12, 2005
  10. Christofire

    Christofire Guest

    Not quite sure of your point here. I didn't pull out on him on
    purpose, and I gave him opportunity to pass as soon as it was practical
    to do so. He took this opportuinity to swerve into my lane once
    alongside. Not quite sure what else I can do to let him drive his own
    drive. Ok, perhaps the one signal I did give was just the thing to
    push his buttons, but it doesn't appear to take much.
    Christofire, May 12, 2005
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    Christofire Guest

    As we left the motorway he stopped, and stopped me from getting round
    him. He got out to come and have a word. As soon as he got upright
    and had left his car I thought leaving would be better than staying and
    off I went. Catching him off guard saw me keep clear for a while but
    it was him trying to catch me again at this point where it got serious.
    Back onto single carriageways some of his overtakes made me wonder
    where his lines were.

    Damage to vehicles didn't look impossible. Stop to see what he wants
    and risk a collision? I seriously had no idea what this chap would've
    stopped at. Again, impossible to call without getting out of the car -
    phone's in the boot.

    Perhaps if I'd have let him vent a while he would've got bored and
    driven off. I wouldn't have got out of the car, and the doors are
    automatically locked (some anti-carjacking feature I gather). It's
    easy with hindsight, but at the time I didn't know he would continue to
    follow. If I did I would've been a bit quicker/slower on the 15
    previous miles of motorway to ensure I didn't get to that roundabout at
    the same time.
    Christofire, May 12, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    All I'm saying, is work round these people without trying to get in
    their way. I don't think I read your original post properly though. :)
    Muck, May 12, 2005
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    Christofire Guest

    I have no desire for revenge, and happy/care-free sounds pretty good to
    me. If it were possible I would prefer him to be less agressive as a
    driver - insert "accident waiting to happen" phrases for yourself. His
    style this morning (I'm not sure whether he recognised me or not) was
    similar brain-out stuff to last time.

    Setting up a video stunt like you describe wouldn't be impossible - it
    appears his daily commute is consistent in route and time, but why
    inflict more of the same on more folk who are on the same road and want
    the happy/care-free life?
    Christofire, May 12, 2005
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    Martin Guest


    A similar thing happened to me I was driving my mothers car across the
    Kingston bridge in Glasgow, I was in the outside lane and a chap in a
    Citroen super turbo mini diesel type thingy appeared on my tail,I was
    doing 50, the limit was 50 there was a car 20 yds in front of me and the
    inside lane was moving at the same speed with more cars in. He starts
    flashing and waving at me because I wasn't 2 inches off the bumper of
    the car in front which I ignored until we were across the bridge and I
    felt I was in a safe position to move in which I did.

    He came tearing past me then proceeded to pull in front of me and slams
    on the brakes, I moved left and passed him he accelerated past me
    shouting and throwing fag ends and pens at me and again pulled in front
    of me and braked, I moved right past him he accelerated past me and
    pulled in front again and braked, I then got to my exit, indicated and
    moved onto the slip road (no hard shoulder) where he swerved over in
    front of me and stopped, I had to stop the car behind him and hoped that
    noone ran into the back of me, he actually looked like he was going to
    get out of the car onto the motorway for a second before he shot off
    again. By this time we had his number plate, car description and a good
    look at his mug so went to the police and reported it. They took the
    details of the cars, names addresses etc. and said they would pop round
    and have a word with the chap.

    Went up to the folks and was washing the car when the bobby we had
    spoken to walks down the drive with a serious look on his face and tells
    me that I had been reported for road rage, I reminded him that I was the
    one who had made the complaint to which he had a Homer "Doh" moment and
    then apologised and went off to get the bad guy.

    It didn't really inspire me with confidence but at least they did something

    "For a minute there, you bored me to death."
    VTR1000 Firestorm
    martin dot smith nine zero three at ntlworld dot com
    Martin, May 12, 2005
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    Christofire Guest


    I tell you what - next time I see him I'll sit in front of him in a
    queue of traffic *with my foot on the brake pedal*! That'll show him.
    Christofire, May 12, 2005
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    WavyDavy Guest

    Like wot some of the others have said, the best response is none at all and
    just ignore the twat. Not that its easy to do so.

    The one time I've reported a case of road rage the police took a statement
    from me and then a day later reported to me that the car was still
    registered with the old owner and so they had no idea who he was, but if the
    car was pulled a a later dte they'd have a word. I heard nothing else...

    A mate who works for the Police advises that if you have an alteraction of
    some kind then you should do what they do and phone in to report that matey
    appears to be DUI - embellish a bit and say "When he got out he staggered a
    bit and slurred while he shouted". That normally prompts a quicker response
    if they think they can get a conviction that way....

    WavyDavy, May 12, 2005
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    ogden Guest

    Hanging's too good.
    ogden, May 12, 2005
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    wessie Guest

    Christofire emerged from their own little world to say
    If they have CCTV they could monitor the situation and deploy a vehicle if
    it looked appropriate. Or they could just record you getting beaten up for
    wessie, May 12, 2005
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    Baseball bat at one pace.
    steve auvache, May 12, 2005
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    Dan White Guest


    Got The Money Back In Small Claims Court :)
    Dan White, May 12, 2005
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