Robbed again

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by BT Humble, Nov 16, 2008.

  1. BT Humble

    GB Guest

    Yeah, fantasic idea. I'm going to run around my house and deface
    all of my assets right now, on the off chance that something gets
    stolen one day.

    Yeah. Security cameras are a fantastic way to get images of
    your bike being stolen. That's it. That's all they do. Completely
    effing useless as a preventative measure, and completely effing
    useless insofar as getting your stuff back is concerned.


    GB
     
    GB, Nov 17, 2008
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  2. BT Humble

    BT Humble Guest

    They didn't take my panels, just the batteries. (Probably easier to
    fence). The panels are now safely locked up at my house in town.

    I think the key is to be unpredictable in your routine, and make sure
    you stay overnight at your weekender at least 5 days per week.


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Nov 17, 2008
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    theo Guest

    Is it still a weekender if you're there 5 days a week?

    Theo
     
    theo, Nov 17, 2008
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    Diogenes Guest

    My sister has a holiday house in the Vic Alps. They have no problem
    because:

    [1] They are on a dead end road.

    [2] They have friendly and vigilant neighbours overlooking the
    property from high ground accross the road.

    Wannabe burglars have been "surprised" by shotgun-weilding hill
    billies on several occasions in the early days, but once the news
    filtered through the local pub scene, there have been no further
    attempts for over a decade now...


    Onya bike...

    Gerry
     
    Diogenes, Nov 17, 2008
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  5. BT Humble

    VTR250 Guest

    Oh yeah... I hadn't thought of that.

    I suppose wireless security cameras rely on a few things that I
    haven't explicitly stated in order to work.

    I haven't ever broken and entered (so I can't speak from experience)
    but surely most crims are either type I or type II?
    Type I: looking for something of value to nick. Little beige box on
    ceiling often goes completely unnoticed.
    Type II: knows that your M/C is there and wants it as quickly as
    possible. Wary of alarms.

    What better legal-to-own 'booby trap' than a PIR activated camera?
    Either way, your hapless crim is going to find himself wasting
    valuable time frantically searching for a ladder (if there is one) so
    they can get high enough to reach the box you have stuck with Araldite
    out of reach... when they could've been helping themselves to your
    lovely goods.

    But does it work? Perhaps your average house-breaker does actually
    looking for cams - and even follow the wires if necessary as part of
    the job. Even if it did get taken, I'd have the satisfaction of
    knowing I'd made them break into a sweat for a bit.
     
    VTR250, Nov 18, 2008
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  6. BT Humble

    GB Guest

    I like the idea of shipping the images off-site as soon as they're
    taken (might be a bit tricky from Funky Town) via the 'net. When I
    had the ill-fated cameras in my office at work, the interesting
    pictures were on a server at my home in about 10-15 seconds.

    It's an interesting problem from a geekery perspective, but I remain
    unconvinced that it achieves anything other than some nice pictures
    of your pride-and-joy being stolen.


    GB
     
    GB, Nov 18, 2008
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    Marty H Guest

    oh I agree... its just those pesky law makers that have no sense of
    humor


    mh
     
    Marty H, Nov 18, 2008
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  8. BT Humble

    VTR250 Guest

    Ouch! So you don't have a very high opinion of that idea then?

    I have to say though, if something (eg. a mobile phone) gets stolen
    then you are unlikely to see it again. If your name and home phone
    number isn't on it (scratched on the outside - not stored in the SIM
    in case the battery is flat) then you will definitely never see it
    again. Keep your prized possessions in as-new condition if you might
    sell them on - otherwise you are keeping it mint for the next owner.
    I realised that after being throttled and mugged one night.
     
    VTR250, Nov 18, 2008
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    atec77 Guest

    if it is just a cam yes , but there is much more you can do ... at a
    cost..
     
    atec77, Nov 18, 2008
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    Kiva Guest

    Type III: Wear a black long-sleeved tracksuit and a balaclava and ignore the
    cameras all together

    ?
     
    Kiva, Nov 18, 2008
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    atec77 Guest

    There is in fact a device looking rather like a usb stick which can be
    interfaces to the cctv cam and uses a sim to be called or call out...
     
    atec77, Nov 18, 2008
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  12. Sorry to hear that mate.

    Is insurance covering the cost?
    __


    Cheers
    The Happy Drunk
    K100RT
     
    The Happy Drunk, Nov 18, 2008
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    for the police report, insurance companies usually require one
    and you in court up to your eyeballs in lawyers...
    not staying that's right, just the way it is


    sad stuff BT, its not so much the loss of things sometimes but the
    feeling of being violated and the distaste of having some prick
    pinching your stuff that you have worked hard for..

    mh
    (why do a have a feeling Clem is going to have a field day with this
    post?)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    [innocent face] Are you saying that pricks have often left a nasty taste in
    your mouth Marty?
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 18, 2008
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  14. BT Humble

    Marty H Guest

    but I didn't inhale...

    mh
    (feeling violated)
     
    Marty H, Nov 18, 2008
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  15. BT Humble

    BT Humble Guest

    Nope. Uninsured.


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Nov 18, 2008
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    Damien Guest

    Type IIIa: all of the above, with the smarts to grab whatever is handy
    and smash the flimsy camera - who needs a ladder when you can throw?
     
    Damien, Nov 19, 2008
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  17. __


    Cheers
    The Happy Drunk
    K100RT
     
    The Happy Drunk, Nov 19, 2008
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  18. BT Humble

    VTR250 Guest

    I'm not convinced. Go to the cop shop and have a look at the people
    waiting to be processed after some light-finger work. They're all in
    jeans and trainers, not dressed like the SAS on a mission. This is
    especially true of people who are just scoping the place to see what's
    there - it attracts attention going around with a balaclava so you
    wouldn't do it unless you were going for something specific. And if
    he wants to stand there with a catapult trying to hit it with a
    marble, my point about wasting time still holds and the images will be
    on a memory card.

    I'm even more tempted to try one out as a result of these objections.
     
    VTR250, Nov 19, 2008
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  19. BT Humble

    Kiva Guest



    I don't think he got his bike back...


    AND this is on a busy main road during daylight hours.
     
    Kiva, Nov 19, 2008
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    Damien Guest

    Many garages also have an assorted of long sticks with large metal bits
    attached to the ends, known as 'garden tools'. You don't need to throw,
    and you don't even need to be that bright or reach that far - just pick
    up the nearest rake/shovel and go 'whack'. Are you seriously going to
    tell me that the cheap plastic shell of a is going to withstand a
    couple of solid hits from a metal shovel?
     
    Damien, Nov 19, 2008
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