Rocket Scientists

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    barb Guest

    barb, Oct 22, 2007
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    barb Guest

    Yeah.
    Shoulda said "rocket scientologists."
    That would be more accurate.

    But geez! They want to extend these "cheese cutters" and have absolutely
    no justification for doing so, other than, "No, they're not that bad,
    really."

    Nice to know that the moronosphere is now global...

    --
    barb
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    barb, Oct 23, 2007
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    ~ Guest

    There are some Wire Rope Safety Fences in Oklahoma and Texas, too.

    http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/pressroom/fhwa0333.htm

    The Oklahoma Department of Transportation's Wire Rope Safety Fence
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    contact Teri Angier at or 405-521-6004.

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    A proven product, BRIFEN is already making a significant contribution
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    the world.

    http://www.transit.govt.nz/about/awards/safety.jsp

    Wire Rope Safety Fences
    United States Patent 5039066
    Link to this page http://www.wikipatents.com/5039066.html
    Inventor(s) Stacey; Andrew G. (Doncaster, GB2)
    Abstract A tensioned wire cable safety fence in which two lower cables
    are interwoven through a row of posts, one cable passing the posts on
    a side opposite the other cable. The lower cables are tensioned after
    interweaving. Upper cables are positioned in slots formed in the top
    of each post and tensioned.
     
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    Morrgaine Guest

    Does Lockheed-Martin actually build any complete aerospace vehicles in
    California?

    Last time I worked on aircraft, it was the B-1B at Palmdale, and
    Rockwell International was doing the de-centralized manufacturing
    routine to reduce facility costs, so the major sub-assemblies were
    built all over the country by low-skilled
    employees in small plants and final assembly was done in only three
    medium-sized buildings at Palmdale.

    I used to ask the production employees at Palmdale how it felt to be
    working at
    "Ground Zero", and they had no idea what I meant, because they didn't
    understand
    the strategic value of aircraft manufacturing plants.

    They were just happy they didn't have to flip burgers at Micky D's or
    work in the poultry processing plant plucking turkeys for two years.
     
    Morrgaine, Oct 25, 2007
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    Paul Elliot Guest

    I DO remember TWO explosions and fires up there. My house is only a
    couple of miles from there. We used to hear them testing engines up
    there all the time. Guy at the corner of my street worked there as well.

    --
    Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics
    German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.

    Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics
    French, the lovers Swiss and it is all organized by Italians.

    http://new.photos.yahoo.com/paul1cart/albums/
     
    Paul Elliot, Oct 26, 2007
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    Morrgaine Guest

    "Glitch" ---Probably from Yiddish glitsh, a slip, lapse, from glitshn,
    to slip, from Middle High German glitschen, alteration of gl ten, to
    glide, from Old High German gl tan; see ghel-2 in Indo-European
    roots.]

    It looks to me like the local aerospace economy has been in a slide
    since the Challenger blew up. The central coast was expected to boom
    as military shuttles flew out of Vandenberg, but that was cancelled.

    Most blue collar aerospace manufacturing jobs moved to Texas or Kansas
    where labor is cheaper.

    And, if the DOD wants any civilian technicians, they only hire
    recently discharged military types who actually worked on a specific
    aircraft during their enlistment.

    Ahnuld says that the economic loss due to taxing aerospace companies
    out of the state has been offset by the buildup in the entertainment
    industry.

    Unfortunately, potential employees need an established relative to get
    a foot in the door.
     
    Morrgaine, Oct 26, 2007
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    Timberwoof Guest

    My roommate works not far from where the Mythbusters sometimes bust
    myths over on Alameda in the San Francisco Bay. The other week when he
    was interviewing a candidate, there was an explosion that felt like
    someone had dropped a truck on the building. It was Jamie and Adam
    blowing up a water heater.
     
    Timberwoof, Oct 27, 2007
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    ~ Guest

    If Brian Posehn and Steve Agee ever quit, maybe
    Jamie and Adam can shave each other's balls on the Sarah Silverman
    Show...
     
    ~, Oct 28, 2007
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    Morrgaine Guest

    Tell me about it. America's future seemed to be in space in the early
    1950's, but
    science fiction writers with engineering background were already
    predicting that the boom would go bust, because they had seen what
    happened during WW2.

    One of my grandfather's cousins was an aeronautical engineer who
    worked with Robert Heinlein and Isaac Asimov at the Philadelphia Navy
    Yard during the war. When he returned to civilian life, he wrote
    science fiction about Conan the Barbarian.

    As a kid, I was a believer in space exploration and rocketry.

    My English teachers were telling me that I shouldn't be reading Arthur
    C. Clarke and Robert Heinlein, I should be reading Hawthorne and
    Thoreau. They said that nobody was ever going to the Moon.

    Where other kids were secretly reading National Geographic to see bare-
    breasted native women, I was reading Von Braun's "Das Marsprojekt" and
    trying to make sense of scientific notation and SI. I wrote letters to
    Von Braun's friend Willy Ley and got answers back. Ley told me I would
    blow my fool head off, messing with rockets.

    But, that's what I wanted. When I went into the Air force, I wanted to
    get to where the rockets and missiles were at, so I requested Edwards
    AFB and Patrick AFB for duty stations, and I got both assignments.

    I was at Edwards AFB during the earliest flight of the X-15 rocket
    plane, and when I was re-assigned to Patrick AFB, I was on an Air
    Force missile crew, preparing to
    launch an Atlas-Agena carrying a nuclear radiation detection staellite
    into orbit in translunar space.

    The name of that secret project was "Vela Hotel". It was so secret and
    mysterious that some US senators once asked how to make reservations
    in the hotel that they were budgeting money for.

    After the Air Force, I worked at all the aerospace companies in
    southern California.

    I helped build missiles and satellites at Hughes Aircraft Company,
    then the Apollo I astronauts were killed in the fire and North
    American was hiring as many people as possible to modify the rest of
    the spacecraft to remove as much flammable material as possible.

    I was inside an Apollo Command Module when a liasion structures
    engineer came in to document a repair to the fllor of the spacecraft.
    At that time, I was interested in pursuing a degree in engineering.

    So I started asking the "engineer" about what college he went to. He
    was getting embarrassed, and finally admitted that he had no degree,
    he just worked with the engineers and documented repairs that the
    mechanics were doing.

    Later on, I met more and more engineers who had responsibilities for
    variousflight systems, and found out that they didn't know much about
    their supposed area of expertise, but they were in the profession for
    the career.

    I was assigned to work with an engineer who was re-writing the test
    procedure for the air conditioning system on the first DC-9 series 80
    jetliner. I had tested ONE system, using the old test procedure, and
    the engineer was asking *me* how to re-write the test specification!

    I asked him how the hell I would know, I had just started at McDonnell
    Douglas. The engineer said that he didn't want any trouble, he would
    write the specification however I wanted it, and that he was planning
    to retire and go sail his boat around Europe.

    The last time I worked around engineers, they were trying to deliver a
    C-cubed system to the Saudis. it was just before the first Gulf War,
    and they had bought
    the communications shelters and the equipment and all the antennae
    from other contractors and they had two guys to assemble 100
    communications shelter and they had one quality inspector, me.

    They had torn one communications shelter all apart, cannibalizing it
    for parts, and they wanted *me*to tell them what they needed to do to
    put it back together so they could sell it to the Saudis.

    I would go and ask the responsible engineers questions about their
    systems and they often couldn't answer. One engineer even told me that
    he wanted to take a nap in his office every morning.

    It became clear to me that management was also hiding out in their
    offices, waiting for the inevitable axe to fall. My quality manager
    told me, "Don't make waves. Just play The Game."

    And, it's been like that on every engineering project I've ever worked
    on. A bunch of degreed phonies that get entrenched in an organization,
    do what they have to do, and then they start "networking" to find
    another niche to temporarily jump into.
     
    Morrgaine, Oct 28, 2007
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