Rossi any good?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by flash, Aug 3, 2005.

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    flash Guest

    In a F1 Car?

    From http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/4741725.stm

    "He completed 80 laps with a best time of 59.21 - three seconds slower than
    Michael Schumacher's track record."

    So, question is, is that any good or could my old mum have turned in a
    similar pace?
     
    flash, Aug 3, 2005
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    Vass Guest

    by my maths that 4.05 laps slower over 80 laps
     
    Vass, Aug 3, 2005
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    Alan Crowder Guest

    1 one thousand 2 one thousand 3 one thousand

    Nah, he's quick ok.

    Alan

    VFR800ABS for fun, Jagiar for Comfort.
    BOTAFOT #148
     
    Alan Crowder, Aug 3, 2005
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    entwisi Guest

    only if MS could turn in a lap record time for all 80 laps which he can't.

    I reckon thats a very good time for someone with the little experience
    that Rossi has in a F1 car.
     
    entwisi, Aug 3, 2005
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  5. flash wrote
    Which would be faster than the any of the back of the grid drivers could
    muster and they are already in F1

    Prolly not a lot of good and I could show your old mum how to go a bit
    faster.
     
    steve auvache, Aug 3, 2005
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    HooDooWitch Guest

    x-posted to rasf1 for the hell of it.
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    Depends on the track conditions, car setup and the nature of the test.
    He was in last years' car which was the spec. of car in which the
    track record was set. Also, I think the track has been resurfaced
    since Schumacher set this time but ICBW.

    IMHO, all things considered, 3 seconds off the pace of a 7 times world
    champ, in his second(?) go in an F1 car is not too shabby at all.
     
    HooDooWitch, Aug 3, 2005
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    Paul - xxx Guest

    flash came up with the following;:
    It's very good.

    It's better than I can do anyway, marginally ... ;)
     
    Paul - xxx, Aug 3, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    I'm no expert on F1, but it seems to me that the pace available from
    an F1 car is very dependent on factors such as tyres, fuel load and
    other setup type things. So, I would guess that only Ferrari, with
    access to this data, will really know if it was any good.
     
    Champ, Aug 3, 2005
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    flash Guest

    Only until Rossi cut under him on the last bend
     
    flash, Aug 3, 2005
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    sorby Guest

    Impressive.

    Didn't Biaggi do quite well in an F1 test a few years ago too?
     
    sorby, Aug 3, 2005
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  11. I prefer to think that I'm probably potentially the fastest and most
    naturally skilled F1 driver who has ever lived, if only one of those
    buggers would let *me* have a go in one.

    I used to be a bit tasty on the scalextric back in my day, if it's proof
    of my ability they're after.
     
    Lemmiwinks, The Gerbil King, Aug 3, 2005
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    Christofire Guest

    And if Rossi turns in his lap record for all 80 laps, which he equally
    can't.
     
    Christofire, Aug 3, 2005
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    flash Guest

    flash, Aug 3, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    I don't think so - F1 grids are usually quite tight, I believe.
     
    Champ, Aug 3, 2005
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  15. Nah, Steve's spot on. Under the current qualifying rules, there are
    usually big gaps between the front and the back of the grid. Partially
    due to the fact that they qualify with whatever level of race fuel
    they've decided to run, but mostly due to the fact that some of the cars
    are just several seconds a lap quicker than their competition this
    season.

    You're probably thinking of the older qualifying sessions of a couple of
    seasons ago, where the 107% rule was in place and teams ran "qualifying
    fuel" (i.e. next to bugger-all fuel), soft "qualifying tyres", and in
    some cases, even "qualifying engines". This year, the cars are in parc
    ferme between qualifying and the start of the race.
     
    Lemmiwinks, The Gerbil King, Aug 3, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    Yes, I was. Under those rules, qualifying was a better representation
    of the outright pace of the cars, imo. Nowadays, qualifying is really
    just round one of the racing, it seems to me.
     
    Champ, Aug 3, 2005
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  17. You also need to take into account that Schumacher has probably driven
    thousands of laps at the track. My guess is Schumacher could run a
    good time in his sleep or with his eyes closed at Fiorano.

    I wonder if the car had a fresh engine, etc.
     
    Austin Martin, Aug 3, 2005
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    Ace Guest

    There's usually at least three seconds between front and back.

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    Ace, Aug 3, 2005
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    gomez Guest

    I would like to see MS do a race distance round Donington in the rain
    on a MotoGP bike.
     
    gomez, Aug 3, 2005
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  20. Yep, it's a bizarre situation I think. In one way or another, F1 has
    been a joke for years now. They plan to further tit-around with the
    qualifying rules for next season (this is on top of the pre- and mid-
    season titting-around that has already gone on this year) but I don't
    think anybody's holding their breath in anticipation of any radical
    improvements. Run by muppets, it is.

    I reckon Jeremy Clarkson's idea of paying all the drivers a basic 20K
    annual salary with a million-quid bonus per overtake had some merit!
     
    Lemmiwinks, The Gerbil King, Aug 3, 2005
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