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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Alan Crowder, Mar 23, 2007.

  1. Alan Crowder

    Hog Guest

    Hmm this here Ducati has 020's fitted. I've never tried them. Do I
    suppose they are shite?
     
    Hog, Mar 23, 2007
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  2. Alan Crowder

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I suppose you're right when it's looked at like that. I wouldn't be
    feeling confident that they'd be up to the job if I ever found myself
    wanting to keep up with other riders on half decent tyres though.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Mar 23, 2007
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  3. Alan Crowder

    Jeremy Guest


    Why would you? They have a good reputation AIUI. Unless there is some
    "not really suited to Ducati ST4" suggestions?
     
    Jeremy, Mar 23, 2007
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  4. Alan Crowder

    Pip Guest

    If you're intending to try and win a race over The Mountain, two up,
    they're prolly not the best choice. I'm surprised they've been fitted
    to a Ducati tbh, I'd expect something a bit more sticky.

    I've not had problems with 020s, but in comparison with the Avon
    offering they offer 2/3 of the grip in the wet for about half the
    mileage. Not good for trackdays, I'd imagine.
     
    Pip, Mar 23, 2007
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  5. Alan Crowder

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I'm sure he'll have worn them out and replaced them with something a
    bit more suited to spirited riding before he goes to the TT.
    The luddites used to suggest an 010 on the front and an 020 on the
    rear for 'sensible' sports touring. I tend to opt for grip over cost
    when it comes to tyre selection.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Mar 23, 2007
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  6. Alan Crowder

    Hog Guest

    Well its a sports touring version so.........
    An Avon gave up the ghost on the Bastard12 but it's brutal on tyres.
    Shredded this 014 in under 2000 miles. I agree they seemed good in the
    wet and were lasting well before it went off and the front Avon still
    does the job. Shall probably try them on the ST4.
    <checks avon website>
    Ah I see an updated version Storm-ST

    As the Bastard12 will be getting polished and sold I guess it's another
    ST rear for the beastie.
     
    Hog, Mar 23, 2007
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  7. Alan Crowder

    Lozzo Guest

    Hog says...
    Not shite, but there are better. The Pilot Road-2s that I have just
    fitted to the Daytona feel more confidence inspiring in the wet than the
    BT020s did on my ZZR1100s. They feel better than the AV45/46STs, but I'd
    hope so too at 40 quid more a pair.

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    Lozzo, Mar 23, 2007
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  8. Alan Crowder

    Lozzo Guest

    Andy Bonwick says...
    This might be because you're in a higher league of riding skill and
    confidence. You push tyres harder, so you demand that bit more of them.
    For what they were designed to do, the Avons, Pilot Road-2s or BT020s
    are perfect i.e. for sports-touring style of riding.

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    Lozzo, Mar 23, 2007
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  9. Alan Crowder

    Beav Guest

    But I've heard that you lean a bike over and apparently, the OP doesn't do
    all that much leaning. Given is riding style, the Azaro's would be
    (probably) the perfect choice. I've not had any reason to regret buying the
    pair I've got anyway, apart from not having the need to get a nice new set
    for past 6 months.

    They handled THE worst weather it's ever been my pleasure to endure and they
    did it with not a single moment of sphincter shrinking and I managed to snap
    off a hero blob without the bike slipping out from under too, so I reckon
    they'd do for the OP.


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    Beav, Mar 23, 2007
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  10. Alan Crowder

    SteveH Guest

    I have Continental Road Attacks on mine. They have a really deep tread
    pattern and therefore last forever.
     
    SteveH, Mar 23, 2007
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  11. Alan Crowder

    Pip Guest

    Some recommendation.
     
    Pip, Mar 23, 2007
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  12. Alan Crowder

    Alan Crowder Guest

    Now i am not sure about those, so far Lozzo's ebay Avon's look
    good value for money seeing as i do 11 miles each way every day
    come rain or snow.

    Alan
     
    Alan Crowder, Mar 23, 2007
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  13. Alan Crowder

    Moon Badger Guest

    Depends a lot on the bike and rider. The Bandit came fitted with an 020 rear
    and an 014 ( I think ) front.

    Tons of grip. Loads of the damn stuff, even in the wet. Utterly predictable
    and wholly planted handling both on the road and track(day). Feedback?,
    even Jimi would be impressed. Knee down, toe sliders down, no bother.

    I fitted Pilot Roads when the Bridgestones wore out. I like them not a jot,
    and if I wasn't such a tight sod, I'd replace them ASAP. As it stands
    though, they've done 4,500 miles and look to have that again left in them,
    so I can almost forgive the degraded performance on anything other than
    either totally smooth, dry, grippy tarmac, or, 'it's been pissing down for
    an hour' wet, smooth, grippy tarmac. In those situations, they are rather
    good. Good enough to get the toe sliders skimming in the dry.

    Damp roads, bumpy roads, worn tarmac?, nope. The Pilot Roads feel twitchy
    and unsettled. Not in a good way. Not in an 'I have tons of traction and
    want to lean' twitchy way. More a 'I am not sure how much traction I am
    providing, or indeed can provide'.

    They may suit a less cack handed rider on a heavier bike. They don't suit
    me. The Bridgestones did.
     
    Moon Badger, Mar 23, 2007
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  14. Alan Crowder

    Krusty Guest

    What pressures are you running them at?


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    Krusty, Mar 23, 2007
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  15. Alan Crowder

    Beav Guest

    M and P and flogging Avon Azaro's for 109 quid a pair this weekend. That's
    GOT to be worth considering, considering the tyres are just what you're
    looking for.


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    Beav, Mar 23, 2007
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  16. Alan Crowder

    Beav Guest

    I had the Sport Attack last year (actually the summer of 05 and the
    beginning of 06) and they were unbelievablly good in the hot weather, but
    not so in the cold. They took a long time to warm up and they had **** all
    grip until they had. I had quite few "moments" before it dawned on me what
    was happening wrt the bike slipping about a bit [1]

    The Avon Azaro's I replaced them with were good in the wet and cold (still
    are too) but they'll need changing shortly and if this summer is as good as
    last year I could be tempted again by the Sport Attack's, but there's those
    other new tyres I fancy trying, the Bridgestone 021's as I ride with a
    pillion more these days.



    [1] I'm an old ****, Ok?


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    Beav, Mar 23, 2007
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  17. Alan Crowder

    Moon Badger Guest

    I've tried 30,33,36(1)+39 front and rear[2].

    Currently running 33 front, 36 rear as that gives me the best feel. Stock
    front preload, stock rear damping and one click up on rear preload gives me
    the best compromise for my weight. Seems to work quite well. Bit squishy
    when pushed.

    [1] As per owners manual.
    [2] Started with the front, found what suited, then furtled with the rear.
     
    Moon Badger, Mar 23, 2007
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  18. Alan Crowder

    Alan Guest

    Shit now that means i have to go to my local M & P and whenever
    i am there other things take my fancy.

    But thanks for the info.

    Alan
     
    Alan, Mar 23, 2007
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  19. Alan Crowder

    Alan Guest

    Where did you get this info from, the web page does not list them?

    Thanks
    Alan
     
    Alan, Mar 23, 2007
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  20. Alan Crowder

    Beav Guest

    Beav, Mar 23, 2007
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