Scottoiler Feed Pipes

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    JB Guest

    Model shops (proper ones).

    JB
     
    JB, Nov 6, 2010
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    sweller Guest

    I've fitted Alan Crowder's old Scottoiler to my Armstrong - thanks to
    Lozzo for the missing bits.

    Unfortunately I can't follow his advice of having the feed nib at 6
    o'clock as the torque arm bracketry is bang in the way. With a bit more
    supply pipe I might be able to get it to 4 o'clock.

    http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/mt500/armscot1.jpg

    There is also another problem. On the sprocket there are a number of
    socket cap screws which rotate with the sprocket. Unfortunately they
    clip the feed nib. I have bent the nib so they miss the screws but I'm
    not 100% it'll stay that way.

    http://www.sweller.dynalias.org/images/mt500/armscot2.jpg

    I'm after some small bore pipe, aluminium or copper, O/D 2mm I/D 1mm? to
    bend and form a better, more permanent feed nib.

    Any ideas where to get it from?
     
    sweller, Nov 6, 2010
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Have you tried fixing the bracket to the torque arm rather than the
    spindle?
    Take the screws out, countersink the holes in the sprocket and use
    countersunk socket screws. Make sure you countersink them to the right
    angle rather than just using the end of a larger drill because the
    angle is different.
    Use some steel brake line and adjust the end of it with a ball pein
    hammer.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Nov 6, 2010
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    nicknoxx Guest

    B&Q stock stuff like that
     
    nicknoxx, Nov 6, 2010
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    sweller Guest

    I need to get some more feed pipe as it's just a bit too short - there's
    a place near me that sells clear pvc pipe for fish tanks etc. Then I'll
    have a go at making up a new torque arm bracket with a bit of meccano
    strip.

    What does the metal rod in the feed pipe do? Can it be anywhere in the
    feed pipe run?

    Countersunk screws have a larger 'footprint' than socket cap so I think
    clearance from the brake hub will be a problem (see picture).

    O/D may be a bit much but I'll give it a go.
     
    sweller, Nov 6, 2010
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  6. JB

    sweller Guest

    That is, making a feed nib bracket with meccano not a torque arm
    bracket...
     
    sweller, Nov 6, 2010
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  7. JB

    sweller Guest

    They do? What's it used for?
     
    sweller, Nov 6, 2010
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    platypus Guest

    It's there to stiffen the feed pipe and allow you to bend it to
    shape. Also, the pipe and dispenser tip should be bent round in a
    curve to clear the heads of the socket bolts, and deliver the oil to
    the surface of the sprocket adjacent to the chain - not dripping onto
    the chain itself. Have you looked at the instructions and stuff on
    the Scottoiler website?
     
    platypus, Nov 6, 2010
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    sweller Guest

    Ah, I thought it was a restrictor device.

    That's how I have it, except it's at 9 o'clock. I wasn't that convinced
    about it keeping its shape.

    Instructions, INSTRUCTIONS!
     
    sweller, Nov 6, 2010
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    Ace Guest

    For women and gay men. Don't let it worry you.
     
    Ace, Nov 6, 2010
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    platypus Guest

    Looking at your photo of the current installation, I'd be tempted to
    warm the little black pipe up a bit and put more of a hockey stick
    curve in the end of it, so the majority of it goes straight back,
    clearing the bolts, and then it bends in towards the sprocket. Hot
    water or a lighter should suffice.
     
    platypus, Nov 6, 2010
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    nicknoxx Guest

    nicknoxx, Nov 6, 2010
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I'll have a look around the garage tomorrow afternoon and see what
    I've got.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Nov 6, 2010
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  14. Poke a length of thin steel wire up the delivery tube and bend it to
    suit. The bend will keep it in place and enable you the bend the
    delivery tube to the point you want. If the wire is thin enough it wont
    restrict the flow and you don't need the bit of black tubing stuck in
    the end.
     
    Mick Whittingham, Nov 6, 2010
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    Lozzo Guest


    This is what I'd do, but I'd just bend the black delivery pipe after
    heating it up to miss the cap head screws. You could probably do away
    with the holding bracket and just cable tie the pipe directly to the
    torque arm if you took that route.

    I don't point my delivery pipe at the sprocket as they tend to get
    deformed and blocked with shite, which means they then stop delivering
    oil to the chain. I have the oil drip directly onto the chain, in the
    way recommended by Scottoiler.

    The wire in the plastic pipe is there to allow the pipe to be bent
    whilst holding it's internal shape and also acts as a flow restrictor.

    --
    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
    in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Nov 6, 2010
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  16. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, platypus
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Eco-mentalist.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Nov 6, 2010
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    platypus Guest

    That's not what Scottoiler say.

    http://www.scottoiler.com/uk/technical-experts-hints-and-tips/dispenser.html
     
    platypus, Nov 7, 2010
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    platypus Guest

    That would be a ecumenical matter.
     
    platypus, Nov 7, 2010
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    Steve Guest

    <snip>
    When I had one fitted I used this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2unwa4g
    to cable tie the tube to and bent it to just the right place
    on the sprocket.

    Steve
     
    Steve, Nov 7, 2010
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    platypus Guest

    platypus, Nov 7, 2010
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