scottoiler

Due to the fact that I'm planning to take my Tenere to a part of the
World where it's going to be plastered in snow and road salt and I
don't fancy sitting in the cold lubing my chain (and probably having
to adjust it) every night it's time to give in and fit a Scottoiler.

I'm not spending the extra on the electronic version but is it worth
fitting the dual injector kit and is it worth fitting a lube tube as
an additional reservoir? I'll be running the unit at a higher flow
rate than normal to counteract the amount of road salt that's going to
be thrown up so it's either go for additional capacity straight from
the start or have to **** about topping it up a couple of times over
the trip.

I've probably been really stupid asking these questions on here
because those with a single injector will say it's perfectly adequate
and those with the dual set up will say it's essential for the sort of
trip I'm planning and some will say that the extra capacity isn't
needed or that I should use the touring kit before checking if it's
suitable for my bike but that's normal for ukrm so go for it.

 

No idea about single v double as they weren't around when I had a chain.
However, for your trip some sort of extra capacity reservoir should be
considered. Priming the system when it runs dry is simple enough but will
be a PITA in the cold, so reducing the chances of needing to do this is a
good thing.

The other thing, which I'm sure you have considered, is use an oil that
will be thin enough at the temperatures you will encounter. Bog standard
chainsaw oil will probably go too thick, as it normally sits in a tank next
to an engine, so won't need fancy multigrade additives.

 

On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 12:23:19 +0000 (UTC), wessie

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I'm planning to email those nice people at Scottoiler and ask what oil
they'd suggest using if very low temperatures are going to be
encountered but I suspect they'll only advise something they sell so
that'd be the standard oil rather than the high temperature option.

 

http://www.oiluk.net/pdf/4410 Gulf Chain Saw Oil.pdf gives the pour
point of chainsaw oil as -15C - whether the pump mechanism will still work
at that point is another matter.

http://www.scottoiler.com/uk/products/scottoil.html says the blue works
down to 0C - can you fit the RV unit near something warm[1] so at least the
pump will work and force some lube along the line?

[1] maybe the voltage regulator on that bike

 

http://www.pro-oiler.com/faq_htm/FAQ01r6-Oils.htm suggests just using
motor oil, so in your case a nice thin one.

 

Good move.

I've had dual injectors and they always **** up. I'm back to using a
single one again with no problems. Don't bother with a Lubetube - I
tried one on the Gixer and for a kick off it never really worked and
secondly it fell apart depositing a shitload of oil all over the side
of the bike and rear tyre. Pip witnessed it and was surprised at just
how useless the thing really was. It was only held together with a
couple of o-rings, one of which worked itself off the cap and that led
to the oil dumping itself.

The extra capacity does help, because on a longer trip you don't need
to worry about refilling it. Can't you fit a normal touring kit
somewhere, even if it won't go in behind the number plate?

--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)

 

I'll forget about buying either of those items then.

The manufacturers say no chance. I don't know why I can't fit one but
if they say no then I'd be stupid to chance it and buy one.

I'll just buy the standard one and fill it along the way.

 

In terms of mounting, I found ignoring scottoilers recommendation of
burying things under the seat and instead attaching either to the
subframe or behind a pillion peg mount on a homemade bracket works
best, at least filling isn't a seat off job that way and it's a hell
of a lot easier to prime if you can get the main body mounted
vertically. No idea where they suggest locating them on Teneres but
something you may want to consider.

 

I have had the V oiler in the past but this time bought a single point
and it works better for me, less tempramental. I have the touring kit
on GS650. If its just for this trip my gut reaction would be to buy
the standard kit. Instead of mounting it under the seat etc I would
mount it where you can get at it easily until you get back. Then look
for some oil that flows at minus 20. I assume you are not going to be
much below that level. Try emailing one of the Scandanavian Bike mags
for some advice or customer services at Castrol.

I did learn one thing when I lived in Northern Canada, 43 years ago,
fluids behave very strangely once you get to about minus 20,
especially lubricants.

None of that was probably much use to you as in the words of my hero
"i know nothing!"

Boxerboy

 

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I just remembered there is a little chart in my BMW handbook

10W oil is okay down to -20C
5W oil is okay down to -30C & beyond.

The don't say what the 0W oils, that seem to be about now, will go to

 

Yes, but that's in an engine not in a gravity reliant Scottoiler

 

It's what I'm doing (big up for Alan Crowder and Lozzo who supplied a
Scottoiler and missing parts respectively, cheaply and free,
respectively).

Haven't fitted it yet but it's likely to be vertically mounted under a
sidepanel - so should be out of the wind and gain some warmth from the
engine/exhaust (which is in the vicinity, but not in the vicinity of the
feed nib - obviously).

I was going to bring along a 500ml bottle of chainsaw oil. Topping up
the Scottoiler is certainly a lot easier than adjusting chains.

 

I saw that - I may give it a go and see how we get on.

 

I've not actually got a sidepanel I can fit it behind but the
Scottoiler website shows where they think I should put it so I'll go
with that. It's not far from the engine so it might keep warm.

That's all I'll be doing. It's not a big deal to chuck a small bottle
in a pannier and check the level every day at some point.

I've ordered a new chain as well because the old one was pretty tired
and I really don't want a broken chain ruining my holiday.

 

You might want to add one of those little plastic syringes - it makes it a
lot easier topping up the scottoiler ime.

 

Good idea. I think I've got a small syringe in my van and though it'd
be slow it'd be better than pouring oil all over the bike. If I can't
find one I've certainly got a very small funnel that I can take.

 

Add? His carers always have plenty on hand.

 

I'm not allowed to play with sharp objects so you're wrong on that
one.

 

That's why the carers have them. I'm not sure sweller & burnt will be happy
that you claim they aren't sharp, mind.

 

If it can happen to you, it can happen to anyone



--
Lozzo
Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
they churn out)