Selling a UK Bike in Luxembourg Advice (FS as well)

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by JW, Apr 29, 2006.

  1. JW

    JW Guest

    I moved to Luxembourg a little while ago, and brought my bike with me - an
    R-Reg Fazer 600. The thing is, I've now decided that I could do with
    something a bit bigger, so the Fazer is going to have to go. Another factor
    in the decision is that re-registering it as a Luxembourg vehicle would be a
    major PITA - I just had the car done, and it was a bureaucratic nightmare.
    With the benefit of hindsight, it would have been better to sell it before I
    came.

    So, does the FOAK have a view on the best way to go about getting shot of
    it? Does anybody have experience of selling a UK-registered bike in a
    foreign country (or, indeed, a foreign-registered bike in the UK)? I imagine
    that the eventual buyer will most likely be someone in the UK who doesn't
    mind picking it up from Luxembourg [1][2], althought it could, of course, be
    bought by someone on the continent who would be willing to re-register it in
    their own country.

    My first instinct is to eBay it, with no reserve, and let the market do its
    stuff - especially as I don't really have a clear view of its value, given
    its location and rather colourful history (see below). If I were to eBay it,
    is there some way to list its location as Luxembourg, and yet still draw the
    attention of potential buyers in the UK?

    As for the bike itself, the salient details (just in case anybody here is
    interested) are:

    Model: Fazer 600
    Year: 1998
    Colour: Red
    Mileage: 10k *recorded*, but actually higher [3]. I would estimate the true
    mileage to be 20k(ish).
    Accessories: MDD Top-Box (original grab rails still available to re-fit);
    Scottoiler; Cover; Haynes manual; hugger
    No. of owners: 3 (inc. me, per V5)

    Grateful for any comments and/or advice

    Cheers





    [1] I won't really have the chance to ride it back to the UK in the near
    future myself, mainly because I simply don't have the time, but also because
    I'd rather spend the free time that I do have riding my new bike rather than
    performing a relatively dull 'delivery run' of the old one. The price would,
    of course, need to reflect this.

    [2] This would require a sale in the imminent future, with the tax and MoT
    ticking away (both 09/06)

    [3] It's had at least two sets of clocks. The previous owner (a friend of
    mine) replaced the clocks immediately before selling it to me - they had
    stopped working altogether, so he fitted a set from a breakers which were
    showing around 4k miles. I very much doubt that the clocks that were on the
    bike before the replacements are original either [4]

    [4] It's a Cat C write-off. I HPI'd the bike before buying it, my suspicions
    aroused by the suspiciously low mileage, ,the presence of a few non-standard
    parts (e.g. handlebars, switchgear and wiring), and the absence of
    maintenance documentation. I wasn't too worried about buying it myself, from
    a mechanical point of view, because I had borrowed the bike for a couple of
    months before buying it, and that didn't reveal any obvious malfunctions. I
    did want to confirm my suspicions, though, hence the HPI. Also, I spoke to
    the first owner that had crashed it in the first place (his name was on the
    V5), and it didn't sound too severe (30mph low-side), so I decided to take
    the risk. The risk seems to have paid off, since I've ridden it about 8k
    miles over the last 2 years without it having missed a beat (or provided any
    clue as to its history)
     
    JW, Apr 29, 2006
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  2. JW

    Monz Guest


    I should hang onto it until after the end of may as a shit load of ukrmers
    are off to ride the 'ring', (myself included)... there may be need of a
    motorcycle [1]

    [1] Thats it now I've said it, we all know who's gixxer is going to be
    repainting the carousel
     
    Monz, Apr 29, 2006
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  3. JW

    JW Guest

    Heh - perhaps a little 'prepping' of the track might help my sales
    campaign...

    Unfortunately I'm not sure that, with the MoT and tax clocks ticking, I can
    wait that long.
     
    JW, Apr 29, 2006
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  4. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, JW
    TBH, I would think you've got next to ****-all chance of selling a bike
    on those conditions unless it's a rare or unusual one.

    If you think about it, the buyer can't inspect pre-purchase and they're
    looking at a couple of days and at least £300-400 in additional costs to
    collect the bike.
    That's possible, but again more likely if it's rare or unusual (unlike a
    Fazer 600). Or very, very, very cheap...

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Apr 29, 2006
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  5. JW

    JW Guest

    Yes, I take both of your points. I know that *I'd* certainly be reluctant to
    travel 500-odd miles to pick up a bike, with all of the attendant travel
    costs, which could well transpire to be a total heap of shit [1]. I think
    that I could well find myself going with the 'very, very cheap' option - I'm
    seriously tempted by the eBay no-reserve option, if only because I like the
    idea of a 'pure' auction. I did have a rather fanciful notion of advertising
    it as an opportunity to acquire a reasonably cheap machine with the added
    attraction of a trip to Luxembourg. But then I remembered: this is
    *Luxembourg*.

    Essentially, I suppose that the real choice is whether to sell it now, for
    next to **** all, but without having to worry about registering, storing or
    transporting it; or wait until I move back to the UK in a couple of years
    and use it as a winter hack.


    [1] Amazingly, in spite of its somewhat chequered past, it's not. I took it
    for a fairly decent hoon today [2], and found myself having a bloody
    brilliant time, and being pleasantly surprised by how well the bike
    performed. It's amazing, the psychological effect that a good clean can
    have...

    [2] Out near the 'Ring, as it happens. Having seen the thread below about
    the ukrm Sedan/Ring trip, I thoroughly recommend making the trip through
    Luxembourg rather than Belgium, Belgian roads in the Ardennes being made out
    of weird, crumbly stuff. Apologies if I'm preaching to the choir...
     
    JW, Apr 29, 2006
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