Selling Uninsured motorcycle

Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by Rich, Nov 27, 2005.

  1. Rich

    Rich Guest

    That depends on your attitude towards risk. The owner and the driver of
    a licensed vehicle are jointly and severally liable for any damage
    caused by its negligent operation. If the prospective buyer carries
    liability insurance and if that insurance covers him for damage caused
    by using a vehicle owned by another with that person's permission, that
    buyer might be a more attractive target for a lawsuit than you, but if
    the injured party decides that you've got the assets and the buyer has
    better lawyers, you may find yourself in court and paying for your own
    defense, even if successful.

    The technique that others have used, and since I'm not a lawyer, I can't
    assure you how well it would work for you, is that if you have an
    interested buyer, you offer to sell him the bike for cash with a very
    short right of return, such right being conditioned on his returning the
    bike in the same condition in which you sold it to him. The theory
    being that if he has an accident during the test period, he is the legal
    owner as well as the driver and solely liable to any third parties he
    injures, and if he does any damage to the bike, you aren't obligated to
    return his purchase price.

    If this strikes you as too risky, you might want to consider selling to
    to a dealer. You'll probably get less money, but since dealers are
    agents of the DMV for title transfer purposes, you can be assured that
    the transaction won't come back to bite you.

    Rich, Urban Biker
     
    Rich, Nov 27, 2005
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    MinuteMan Guest

    thanks for the response, what do you think about reinsuring the bike just
    so
    I can sell it?
    I'd probably get way more for it that way.
     
    MinuteMan, Nov 27, 2005
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  3. I don't think insurance is transferrable, if that's what you're
    thinking. When you sell the bike the insurance disappears, so your
    having it insured doesn't increase its value.

    You might check into insuring the bike for liability only. I get my
    bike insurance from Progressive. When I bought a new (to me) bike
    this year I insured it for comp & collision. I was meaning to sell
    the old bike, but just out curiosity I asked for a quote to insure it
    for liability only as a 2nd bike. It was $33 a year! So I kept it.

    But I still like the idea of selling the bike to a prospective buyer
    with a reasonable right of return. It covers not only your liability
    but also the value of the bike itself.
     
    blazing laser, Nov 28, 2005
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  4. Rich

    MB Guest

    If you DO re-insure it, and then quickly sell it, can't you cancel the
    insurance and get the unused portion back? State Farm does it that way.
    I think...

    mb
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    MB, Nov 28, 2005
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  5. For $33 I wouldn't care. But I believe Progressive will give you 6
    months back at most (don't quote me on that). So it would be $17.50.
    Cheap enough, I'd say.
     
    blazing laser, Nov 28, 2005
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    cstatman Guest

    blazing laser <none> wrote in 4ax.com:



    No offense, but why in the HECK does anyone on this list continue to
    listen to conjecture and BS.

    "I don't think" doesn't that literally translate to "I have no
    freakin Idea, and I am just talking out of my butt cheeks"???


    Guy who wants to sell bike: NO. Your insurance does NOT cover another
    rider, unless you specifically paid for it

    Look at Kesti's post on how to sell a bike. this is the ONLY correct way
    to do it in this godforsaken state. GET paid. The bike is sold, he
    has x amount of time to bring it back. You will be more than happy to
    ride it to his mechanic, etc.....


    but please, if you do not KNOW, with authority you are willing to bet a
    body part on, don't post crap and conjecture. It just wastes time.
     
    cstatman, Nov 30, 2005
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  7. Rich

    MB Guest

    Well, that would be to ASSume that the exact opposite rule applies to MC
    insurance than CAGE insurance.

    The vehicle carries the insurance. Not the driver.

    mb
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    MB, Nov 30, 2005
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  8. I'm not an expert. I know how MY insurance works but I don't know if
    they all work that way.
    MY insurance does cover other riders. Didn't cost extra, it's just
    how the policy works.
    I just wanted to warn the OP that being insured does not make the bike
    more valuable since the insurance policy is nullified when the bike
    changes hands.
     
    blazing laser, Nov 30, 2005
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  9. Rich

    Rich Guest

    Sort of. Liability attaches to both the owner and the operator (with
    owner's permission) of a motor vehicle. Auto liability coverage
    generally applies in either case, covering the incidental use of someone
    else's vehicle and damage caused by your vehicle when driven by someone
    else.

    Motorcycle liability is often written more restrictively, sometimes
    covering you when driving other motorcycles and sometimes covering
    others' use of your motorcycle. It does not cover damage you cause by
    driving other than a motorcycle.

    Keep in mind that even when your insurance covers your liability for
    another's use of your vehicle, if that use results in a claim, it will
    affect your rates.

    Rich, Urban Biker
     
    Rich, Dec 1, 2005
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  10. Mine, too. I checked.
    Correct.
     
    Denise Howard, Dec 1, 2005
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  11. Rich

    Alan Moore Guest

    Some insurance companies are reluctant to insure vehicles that have
    spent any length of time uninsured, however. I don't know whether this
    is a problem with motorcycles, but I ran into it once with a car...

    Al Moore
    DoD 734
     
    Alan Moore, Dec 1, 2005
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  12. Rich

    cstatman Guest

    will you let a prospective purchaser take your bike for a ride?

    :)
     
    cstatman, Dec 3, 2005
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  13. Depends on the prospective purchaser. Just because my insurance covers
    him/her doesn't mean I have no regard for my bike!
     
    Denise Howard, Dec 3, 2005
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  14. Rich

    JB Guest

    Does the insurance cover the bike - or just "The othe Guy"?
     
    JB, Dec 3, 2005
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  15. Rich

    cstatman Guest

    will you let a prospective purchaser take your bike for a ride?

    ME, I got a new stunt I need to learn. :DDDD
     
    cstatman, Dec 5, 2005
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