Sepang test = New tire rule may be best thing for MotoGP?

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by pablo, Feb 8, 2009.

  1. pablo

    pablo Guest

    Granted, the tests are preliminary and it's hard to truly draw
    conclusions yet. Up front, not many surprises: Rossi and Stoner, after
    all, have been the dominating force in MotoGP. Behind them, though, it
    could be that we are seeing a much closer field, and that the new tire
    rules are a big equalizer that will tilt the rider-to-motorcycle
    winning cocktail more decisively towards the rider. It's good to see
    quality veterans like Capirossi and Edwards show the upstarts that
    they're not quite ready to live off a pension plan. And great job by
    Elias, too, I have always liked his aggressive style and he deserves
    to be on more equal material.

    With a more equal tire base, and perhaps more judicious investment in
    R&D that benefits satellite teams, perhaps 2009 will be a very
    entertaining season to follow. Since there are fewer bikes, it would
    be great if at least they give each other closer races.
    pablo, Feb 8, 2009
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    Henry Guest

    how about 19" wheels and max size of 110/90 ?
    or a 3 speed gearbox
    now _that_ would slow them down

    I sense turbo's not too far down the track, the major car companies
    seem to extract meaner, greener performance out of fewer CC's,
    stratospheric fuel injection pressure and variable geometry turbo's
    Henry, Feb 9, 2009
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    Julian Bond Guest

    Closer, but smaller, field.
    Elias fastest Honda. New Suzuki actually looks like a normal racing
    bike. Gibernau surprisingly fast. Hayden being honest about what a pig
    the Ducati is to ride. No Kawasakis. Edwards is always fast on Monday
    (and Saturday).

    Not long now till the first WSB race...
    Julian Bond, Feb 9, 2009
  4. Champ wrote:

    Very happy to see that. Glad he and the bike can make the one-size-fits
    tires work.
    Anyone got a video link? I understand it was an awesome Moonshot that
    would do Gorgeous Jorge proud.
    No. If he were whining, he'd have done a Pedrosa and gone home with a
    tummy ache. He mentioned that his hand hurts like hell (Apparently,
    you've never suffered a hand/foot injury? Be glad you haven't!), and he
    mentioned that as the reason he didn't do any long runs. He still went
    out and blitzed the field riding the most unruly bike in the paddock.
    Not exactly 'whining' in my book.

    I bet he's more than a little worried at this point. I hope his hand
    isn't permanently screwed up.
    Canepa was the surprise underachiever. There was talk of him replacing
    Marco last year, but after this test I have to wonder why.
    Greg Campbell, Feb 9, 2009
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    Champ Guest

    Hah! I broke 3 metacarpels in my right hand in my big racing crash
    last year. One was plated. I now have two fingers 5~10mm shorter
    than they used to be. Here's the relevant bit of my blog:
    I said whinging, not whining (there's a difference in British
    English), and anyway, he should have let his times do the talking for
    him. But no, he had to have something to moan about.
    Champ, Feb 9, 2009
  6. Champ wrote:

    Please elaborate! I always assumed the daft Brits were simply
    misspelling 'whine.' :)
    Greg Campbell, Feb 10, 2009
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    pablo Guest

    Yeah, why is that when I was reading about it I heard echoes of
    Spencer and Schwantz. There are injuries that se3riously affect your
    ability to compete in a long race, even though you are fine when it's
    just about doing a few very fast rounds.
    pablo, Feb 10, 2009
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    pablo Guest

    Hey, we may be cousins. :) My right hand looks the same after an
    idiotic supermoto incident in late '07. :) But I know others who have
    suffered hand injuries, and it's a luck of the draw thing, as you well
    know depending a lot on nerve damage and such. I was very lucky, even
    though I am likely to develop arthritis anytime now, supposedly...
    pablo, Feb 10, 2009
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    Champ Guest

    heh. Well, I must admit the meanings are pretty close, but for me
    whining is something you'd get from a child or teenage girl, whereas
    whinging implies an adult who is moaning and complaining. Not
    necessarily without justification, but the subtext is they should just
    shut up and get on with things.
    Champ, Feb 10, 2009
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    Julian Bond Guest

    I'm puzzled about the spelling. Is this right? "Stoner is a whingy git".

    There was a weird interview with him about the MotoGP move from
    Donington to Silverstone in MCN where he said something like "I don't
    expect the Silverstone crowd to like me any more than the Donington one
    apparently does. As if moving 50 miles south and west would somehow
    result in a better class of spectator who wouldn't moon him[1] on the
    slowing down lap.

    [1]That's probably the least of it!
    Julian Bond, Feb 10, 2009
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    Henry Guest

    Aaron Slight ?
    Henry, Feb 10, 2009
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    Henry Guest

    I got really caught up in the whole Honda/Slight v Ducati/Fogarty
    thing. Foggy was very easy to dislike :) Aaron banged on a bit about
    the 750/4 v 1000/2 thing quite a bit.
    Bummer that Aaron's career got interfered with by some stupid brain
    aneurysm thing. I'm still confused why Honda didn't stick with the VTR/
    SP development; money I guess.
    Got to meet Aaron and Colin Edwards back in about 2000 at an open day
    in Cambridgeshire, Aaron had the coolest scar where they opened his
    head up, Colin seemed like a really nice bloke. Some Spanish guy on
    the super sports bike too.
    I remember watching a very youthful Aaron Slight cleaning up on a TZR
    250 (about '86) in Production racing at Manfield (NZL), definitely had
    that "something special".

    ahh... those were the days :)
    Henry, Feb 11, 2009
  13. OK, here's an interview from the testing.

    I appreciate that Casey is not always Mr. Personality, but does this
    qualify as a real-live winge? :)

    What sayeth the court?
    Greg Campbell, Feb 13, 2009
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    Champ Guest

    heh. I wouldn't convict on that evidence.
    Champ, Feb 13, 2009
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    Henry Guest

    crickey dick cobber
    Henry, Feb 16, 2009
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