Shaft drive vs Chain drive - benefits or drawbacks?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by DaZZa, Jan 28, 2004.

  1. Boo hoo.

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Jan 29, 2004
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  2. ....and its black. Speaking of which I saw a nice Cali Special yesterday
    (black too). They overly pricey?

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Jan 29, 2004
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  3. Used to get 19km/L outta the GPz1100.

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Jan 29, 2004
  4. DaZZa

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    "Hamish Alker-Jones" wrote
    Depends on your outlook. A new Cali will run you $20-23K.

    a.. Calif EV Tour Red/Blue/Black $22,995
    a.. Calif SpSport Titanium Titanium $19,990

    Those are the commuter models, of course.

    Helen suggested just last week I should buy one before I retire. Sounds like
    a reasonable suggestion to me. Mine turns ten and 200K kms this year. Should
    get $10-11K for it as a trade. Hmmm, $12K to find now. Hmmm....

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jan 29, 2004
  5. DaZZa

    paulc Guest

    If you work in a city, then it's easy - esp. Melbourne.
    Parking: $13/day car. $0/day bike.
    City Tolls: $5/day car, $0/day bike.

    That's how I got mine approved. :)
     
    paulc, Jan 29, 2004
  6. DaZZa

    paulc Guest

    but then he wouldn't be able to wheelie. ;)

     
    paulc, Jan 29, 2004
  7. DaZZa

    sharkey Guest

    Eoric Burdeon?

    -----sharks (... and the Aenimals?)
     
    sharkey, Jan 29, 2004
  8. DaZZa

    Gary Woodman Guest

    I say that every day :)

    Gary
     
    Gary Woodman, Jan 29, 2004
  9. DaZZa

    Smee Guest


    paralever tends to negate that effect.
    I really don't feel any effect under hard acceleration.
     
    Smee, Jan 29, 2004
  10. DaZZa

    Smee Guest

    Care to explain?
    try getting away at highway speeds on a250
    that statement is ludicrous.
     
    Smee, Jan 29, 2004

  11. Good luck locating one with an 18" front wheel.
    I've heard that they're impossible to find...


    Postman Pat
     
    Pat Heslewood, Jan 29, 2004
  12. DaZZa

    conehead Guest

    "hard acceleration" and a BMW don't really sit well in the same sentence,
    smee :)
     
    conehead, Jan 29, 2004
  13. DaZZa

    Smee Guest

    Ride an r1100s then we'll talk
     
    Smee, Jan 29, 2004
  14. In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:33:25 +1100
    If you have to use acelleration to get out of trouble, you got yourself
    into it. And the times it'st he *only* answer are very very few.

    A bit of observation and anticipation and willingness to not see the
    road as a contest means far fewer problems generally and will avoidthe
    need to "acellerate out of trouble".

    If you have to acellerate out, the trouble started long before you
    decided to twist the throttle. And could have been fixed before then.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jan 29, 2004
  15. DaZZa

    Smee Guest

    Thanks for patronising me zebee
    now let james answer the question he made the statement and you only
    answered one aspect.
    There are many circumstances where extra power can get u out of trouble
    and not all of us drive/ride like old grannies.
     
    Smee, Jan 29, 2004
  16. With the Paralever back suspension fitted to all the R1100 models (S
    included) you don't get shaft effect, when you accelerate, the back will sag
    a bit. You will get shaft effect when the shaft has one universal joint
    only (at the front end of the shaft). Some Guzzis have a Parallelogrammo
    rear suspension that does the same as the BMW Paralever (Hint: BMW didnt
    invent the idea)

    Al
     
    Alan Pennykid, Jan 29, 2004
  17. In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:43:58 +1100
    That's what you get for calling a sensible statement ludicrous.
    I'm not stopping him.
    heh. patronising pot.

    You don't need it to get out of trouble. That's just an excuse. Sure
    you can use it to get out of the trouble you got yourself into, but
    you don't *need* it.

    If you equate anticipation and the ability to not see the road as a
    contest you have to win with "riding like old grannies" then you aren't
    thinking clearly.

    It's perfectly possible to ride quickly *and* not get into trouble, let
    alone into trouble you need more horses to get out of. That's the bit
    about "skilled rider". If you think you need horsepower (as distinct
    from liking it) then you aren't skilled enough.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jan 29, 2004
  18. DaZZa

    Smee Guest

    Sensible in one aspect


    what trouble are we talking about?
    where u are being tailgated and got nowhere to go so u roll on the
    throttle to get away and then settle back to your own pace? in another lane?
    where a car unexpectedly tries a u turn and you don't have enough time
    to brake so you accelerate to go round? (and don't gimme the lecture
    about being prepared cos you know that not all circumstances allow that)
    I can list more but you will only counter them by calling it lack of
    skill even though in many cases skill is not the issue.
    I've never had a close call on the bimmer but had a few on the cd250
    I don't hoon and keep all my spaces yet I feel assured that if I need
    the rapid acceleration it's there and yes I do like having the extra
    power but as yet never really needed it.
     
    Smee, Jan 29, 2004
  19. DaZZa

    sanbar Guest

    Amen brother. Not to mention the fuel saved on the Monash.
    - sanbar
     
    sanbar, Jan 29, 2004
  20. DaZZa

    sanbar Guest

    I get 6-7 litres per 100km country cycle out of the K100. To do 1000km a
    week costs me about $65 in fuel in a good week.
    - sanbar
     
    sanbar, Jan 29, 2004
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