Sheesh, if a frikken ZOO can plan ahead.....

From the Wired news site:

Disaster Planning That Worked
A New Orleans zoo curator tells residents not to worry about dangerous
animals prowling the wrecked city. An alligator is missing, but otherwise, a
host of shell-shocked animals came through Hurricane Katrina relatively
unscathed. Turns out, the zoo has been preparing for such a storm for years,
reinforcing concrete structures that house most animals during the
hurricane, organizing emergency supplies and planning for the potential
evacuation of staff. The zoo, built on high ground, avoided flooding and the
fatalities were minimal. The big cats have been well-fed: "We invite
journalists in, lock the gates and then they are never heard of again," Dan
Maloney joked. Actually, a two-week supply of meat was stored in massive
generator-powered freezers. Those in charge of safety for humans could take
some lessons.


The State of Louisiana and the city of New Orleans could definitely take
some lessons....

 

I like the part where according to Dan Maloney, the big cats have been well-fed:
"We invite journalists in, lock the gates and then they are never heard of
again,"

(Hey, do I get to score some bush-baby points for demonstrating skill at quoting
out of context?)

 

The sickening thing Iggy is that FEMA claims that they had everything
planned out prior to Katrina and that they had everthing in place three
days prior to Katrina making landfall.


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Cite please? Are you sure you're not confusing FEMA with the State of
Louisiana/City of New Orleans?

 

Oh? They could have moved to higher ground like the area where the zoo
was/is located?

 

The state and city had plans, the plan even covered evacuation, but when it came
down to it, they didn't use the plans they had. Look it up, the plans were
documented on a news site a few days ago.

 

Funny how that's the only point *you* took from the article. <chuckle>

 

No shit. They didn't follow through with their plans and throw all of the
blame for that on the Federal Government. In my book, THAT is passing the
buck.

 

I saw an interview on CNN earlier today, I didn't catch the name of the
person being interviewed. I do remember that the man being interviewed
was a local manager with FEMA and he kept re-iterating that everything
(what he meant by everything I can only guess) was in place and that
FEMA is at a complete loss to explain what went wrong.

I checked with FEMA's web site and found these which may be of interest
to you.


This is from August 28
Check out:
http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=18461

Homeland Security Prepping For Dangerous Hurricane Katrina
Residents in path of storm "Must take action now"

Release Date: August 28, 2005
Release Number: HQ-05-173
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The U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s Federal Emergency Management
Agency is warning residents along Gulf Coast states to take immediate
action to prepare for dangerous Hurricane Katrina as it approaches land.

“There’s still time to take action now, but you must be prepared and
take shelter and other emergency precautions immediately,” said Michael
D. Brown, Under Secretary of Homeland Security for Emergency
Preparedness and Response. “FEMA has pre-positioned many assets
including ice, water, food and rescue teams to move into the stricken
areas as soon as it is safe to do so.”


And this is from August 27:
http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=18447


Emergency Aid Authorized For Hurricane Katrina Emergency Response In
Louisiana

Release Date: August 27, 2005
Release Number: HQ-05-169
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» More Information on Louisiana Hurricane Katrina
» More Information on Louisiana Hurricane Katrina

» En Español

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Michael D. Brown, Under Secretary of Homeland
Security for Emergency Preparedness and Response, today announced that
Federal resources are being allocated to support emergency protective
response efforts response efforts in the parishes located in the path of
Hurricane Katrina.

Brown said President Bush authorized the aid under an emergency disaster
declaration issued following a review of FEMA's analysis of the state's
request for federal assistance. FEMA will mobilize equipment and
resources necessary to protect public health and safety by assisting law
enforcement with evacuations, establishing shelters, supporting
emergency medical needs, meeting immediate lifesaving and
life-sustaining human needs and protecting property, in addition to
other emergency protective measures.

The parishes of Allen, Avoyelles, Beauregard, Bienville, Bossier, Caddo,
Caldwell, Claiborne, Catahoula, Concordia, De Soto, East Baton Rouge,
East Carroll, East Feliciana, Evangeline, Franklin, Grant, Jackson,
LaSalle, Lincoln, Livingston, Madison, Morehouse, Natchitoches, Pointe
Coupee, Ouachita, Rapides, Red River, Richland, Sabine, St. Helena, St.
Landry, Tensas, Union, Vernon, Webster, West Carroll, West Feliciana,
and Winn were designated eligible for assistance. In addition, federal
funds will be available for public safety debris removal and emergency
protective measures at 75 percent of approved costs.

Brown named William Lokey of FEMA to coordinate the federal relief
effort. FEMA prepares the nation for all hazards and manages federal
response and recovery efforts following any national incident. FEMA also
initiates mitigation activities, trains first responders, works with
state and local emergency managers, and manages the National Flood
Insurance Program and the U.S. Fire Administration. FEMA became part of
the U.S. Department of Homeland Security on March 1, 2003.

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The ideal engineer is a composite ... He is not a scientist, he is not a
mathematician, he is not a sociologist or a writer; but he may use the
knowledge and techniques of any or all of these disciplines in solving
engineering problems.
N. W. Dougherty, 1955

 

Oh? There was another point? Actually, there wasn't...

 

I thought they mentioned the animals were well fed!!! : )

 

(IGGY posts an interesting article)
(From the Wired news site
Disaster Planning That Worked
A New Orleans zoo curator tells residents not to worry about dangerous
animals prowling the wrecked city. An alligator is missing, but
otherwise, a host of shell-shocked animals came through Hurricane
Katrina relatively unscathed. Turns out, the zoo has been preparing for
such a storm for years, reinforcing concrete structures that house most
animals during the hurricane, organizing emergency supplies and planning
for the potential evacuation of staff. The zoo, built on high ground,
avoided flooding and the fatalities were minimal. The big cats have been
well-fed: "We invite journalists in, lock the gates and then they are
never heard of again," Dan Maloney joked. Actually, a two-week supply of
meat was stored in massive generator-powered freezers. Those in charge
of safety for humans could take some lessons.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The State of Louisiana and the city of New Orleans could definitely take
some lessons.. (IGGY)


‘‘(iggy), not bad. I'm impressed, that you actually posted a
discussable topic’’
I wonder if this is a crossPost? The reason I say this, is, because most
of the responses seem to be from the good folks from ReekyVille’
(mostly) I need to add, that this is uptoTuesday,830am,09-12-05!
(bjay)

 

Really? How about "organizing emergency supplies and planning for the
potential
evacuation..."? The former was not followed through on, and the latter was
executed poorly. IMO, the city and state governments are to blame for the
thousands of evacuees that were in trouble the days following Katrina.
They've had *decades* to plan for just such an event and, when it came, they
choked.

 

Don't forget the lines of school buses that were left parked and are
currently under water. Sad how a mandatory evacuation is only for those than
have the means to get out. The rest have to either get to the superdome or
die in their attics.
Poorly planned or mismanaged, if only some help was afforded.
This is just a general black eye for the good ole US. Still shows that those
in control have very little reguard for their fellow man. However don't let
a major screwup on your part offset your ability to shift blame to someone
else.

I say vote em all out, let the unemployment line sort them.

 

That does seem to be your take with respect to Iraq.
Why do you support big government intervention/oppression
at an obscene cost of innocent lives and tax payer dollars?
Seems especially bizarre when it's illegal, immoral, and
unwanted. Are you nuts?


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Ever wonder who benefits from the 150 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/


"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then
he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
-- George W. Bush

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the
will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the
Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-- Adolf Hitler

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...

 

Why is that a reasonable conclusion ? History is certainly full
of plenty of revolutions.

A more reasonable conclusion might be that there was no clear
united will for a regime change. Given that you can still find
Russians who speak well of Stalin, perhaps it was wise not to
try to protect the Russians from their evil dicator and let them
work it out for themselves. There seem to have been a number of
folks, lots of Sunnis and many Shia, who didn't appreciate our
intervention, however well intentioned.

I suspect too, that we may have walked into Iraq expecting it to
be more like a regime change in some bananna republic, where you
send in the marines, kick out the head of state, cut a deal with
a heir aparant, then leave quickly. There's obviously a fair amount
of ideology/theology at work in Iraq, in contrast to say Panama.

 

Of course the Sunnis didn't appreciate it. They were favored by Saddam....

"Many Shia" huh? Which ones would those be? The tens of thousands buried
in mass graves?

 

Sure he does, just look at the number of people who whine about Bush not
moving fast enough on the mess in New Orleans, only they want to pick and
chose when the federal government is suppose to just bull right in and when
they shouldn't..

 

We might start with the Al Sadr Shi'a militia, You know, the
ones who were fighting us ? After the '91 massacres, the Shi'a
may have hated Saddam but they didn't seem to like us a whole
lot either.

 

Kinda like "by invitation" ?