Should I bother - getting a photocard driving licence that is?

Getting the dagos out of England was surely a primary aim

 

Same in France.

 

Domènec escribió:

Yes, but they aren't going to renew it. It will be replaced with an A4
certificate and must be accompanied by photo ID ie; passport (not sure if my
Spanish driving licence will suffice).

I've seen much debate. My last 5 minute trip to the local doctor (well nurse
really - and she was a useless bitch) cost me 30 euros, regardless of the
fact that local healthcare is not actually related to social security
payments, ie; we all pay for it through our taxes. This is due to be
addressed this very month I believe.

Meanwhile, I pay loadsamoney for private medical insurance.

 

Strange... I'll ask other furrin co-workers.

80-90 euros per month here for Asistencia Sanitaria (there are cheaper
alternatives). Long list of excellent doctors, and funniest of all, their
hospital is the building that was initially planned for the Hilton Barcelona
in the business district. Views from the rooms and the rooms themselves
rock, as they are 5 stars hotel sized

 

ITYF they do nothing of the sort.


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Why?

 

I think my BUPA policy, which is the most comprehensive they underwrite,
with me a T2 Mong, is ~£100/month. You really wouldn't want to be without
it.

 

spelling corrected

 

My mother was a notary and expert witness in court for real estate
transactions. I'm not sure if it was hearsay or a case she was
involved in, but in a trial for impersonation/forgery, a judge decided
that if a notary does not actually "know" the person, there is no
proof the signor is the person on the document. I think the case
involved someone who went through old newspapers to find a child with
a similar birthdate who died young. They requested a birth
certificate, which they used to obtain a driving license and passport.

 

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My mother was a notary and expert witness in court for real estate
transactions. I'm not sure if it was hearsay or a case she was
involved in, but in a trial for impersonation/forgery, a judge decided
that if a notary does not actually "know" the person, there is no
proof the signor is the person on the document. I think the case
involved someone who went through old newspapers to find a child with
a similar birthdate who died young. They requested a birth
certificate, which they used to obtain a driving license and passport.

Interesting. But...

In our law, the digital certificates are given by a civil servant who
personally checks face to face the documents of the requester, and signs the
request itself in order to keep track of everuthing from the start. Then
trust is given to all the generated X509 certificate chain. To that extent,
this civil servant is given all the trust that emanates from the notary in
your case. And as I see it, in the referred case the trust failure was not
in the digital signature but in the "analog" chain of documentation that was
altered with forged documents...

Afraid to remember not which Spanish law number it was (I did that sort of
stuff 2002-2005) but for instance a contract digitally signed with a trusted
certificate has non-repudiation warranty. That's why certification
authorities are compelled to have large insurances in case they fail to
provide trust. Anyway, and talking about Spain, much debate went on from
2004 onwards, and they were not techies but lawyers the ones that were
discussing... (yes, I felt asleep in many digital signature congresses)

Please excuse my poor legal English (not to mention English laws AFAIK comes
from Germanic laws and we are Romanes eunt domus guys

 

Pretty damn good, actually, as usual. But note that "signor" should be
"signatory".

 

You pikey illiterate cunts...

 

It was not a mistake. It was a checker trap to see if anyone was
paying attention.

 

Let me turn that around: How does a card saying your name is Domenec
prove that you are Domenec?

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And of course, that's completely in-corruptable.

Pretty much then the documents 'prove' the identity.

As Ace said.....

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First, define what is "being Domenec".

No, it's not an ontological joke

An ID card or any other kind of document (passport, driving license, gym
card, whatever) issued by an organization states according to the issuer
that a person related to the document by a certain set of attributes
(picture, fingerprints, biometrics) has some set of attributes (names, birth
day and place, daytime of gym access, vehicles that can be driven) in
his/her relation to the issuer (citizenship, club membership, ability to
drive).

For that, it is important that such document can not be forged. What would
you trust more, a modern format with hard to forge items (say holograms,
whatever), or some birth document written on olde paper in a rural parish
and stamped with a mark that can be copied with a potato?

Now that you have a document that can not be forged, it can be a hash key to
all the set of documents that identify you as a citizen of your country.

 

Nothing is perfect, in the same way that nothing is absolutely bad.

Private key containers can be lost or compromised. That invalidates them,
and that's why Certificate REvocation Lists and are checked on-line when
validating a signature or a certificate based authentication.

You could also theoretically derive a private key from a public key.
However, World War II films showed us how nazi documents could be forged
with paper, ink and an skilled resistante, but the same for digital PKI
certificates would require *some* computing power.

Yes, at the end a digital certificate is a digital (highly) safe reference
to an original document. The name says it all, it is a "certification of",
not a document.

Thanks

 

I'm hurt.

 

Serves you right.

 

Would have been fine if you hadn't royally fucked up your quoting...