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Discussion in 'Classic Motorcycles' started by crn, Sep 9, 2010.

  1. crn

    crn Guest

    It lives !
    The YP250 Majesty that I bought for a song last week on ebay has a
    shiney new MOT thanks to some new fork seals and some minor fettlement.

    The little Sukida scoot was OK around town but a PITA outside of a
    30 limit so I was tempted by a superscoot.
    First impressions: This is the lardarse tourer of the scoot world, a bit
    wide and heavy for agressive filtering but goes as well as can be expected
    for a 250 and manages a 70+ cruise on the motorway despite the big screen.
    Armchair comfort, very low GofG and great weather protection.
    The low seat and feet-forward position felt a bid odd at first but it
    does a fine job as a long range shopping trolley with loads of storage
    plus a big top box. Not sure yet about fuel consumption but the little
    10 litre tank does not bode well for tank range.

    FS: One 50cc scoot, nice condition, only 2000 genuine km.

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    03 GS500K2
    98 Yamaha YP250
    76 Honda 400/4 project
    78 Honda 400/4 in black
    06 Sukida SK50QT (Slanty eyed shopping trolley) [FOR SALE]
     
    crn, Sep 9, 2010
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    Lozzo Guest

    Value about 50 quid, cos all it's worth is breaking for spares, no-one
    wants badly made used Chinese scooters and we don't want the hassles
    that go with selling them. We break every single one of them that comes
    into our shop in px, and we turn away three times that many because
    they are absolutely worthless. Bossman has been known to allow 100 quid
    in px but ask the owner not to ever let it darken our doorstep again -
    in other words "we'll allow you so much, but leave it at home cos it's
    more than our trouble is worth to pick it up and throw it in the
    dumpster". Some of these bikes have less than 5000km on the clock.

    They are garbage, and it doesn't matter what name is on the side, they
    are all as badly made as each other, basically because they are just
    generic Chinese made shit with different stickers.

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    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
    (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Sep 10, 2010
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    Buzby Guest

    I was thinking of getting a scoot for using aroung town - any
    recommendations? - I was thinking one of the Gilera runners might be
    fun - something like the 2 smoke 180cc version
     
    Buzby, Sep 10, 2010
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  4. crn

    crn Guest

    The chinese 50s and 125s are fine around town if you treat them
    as disposable. No problems in 18 months apart from an indicator
    switch. Plenty of cheap new parts for most available from
    http://www.chinesemotorcyclepartsonline.co.uk/ but check their
    website for your exact model before buying, some are not supported.

    If you want Italian I would go for a Vespa, they are good and hold
    their price well.
     
    crn, Sep 10, 2010
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    JackH Guest

    I had exactly that in... 2001.

    Good fun, actually - had an indicated 90mph out of it the once,
    indicated 80mph was more the norm flat out, and would have most
    cooking model cars up to about 50mph off the lights.

    I say 'indicated', as it was pretty obvious the speedo was ever so
    slightly optimistic.

    They're not badly built (1), they're comfy, you can fit plenty of
    beers under the seat, (although conversely, not a full face lid), and
    they're pretty much bombproof depreciation wise if in good nick no
    matter what age they are, as they're much more sought after than the
    later four stroke models.

    Were they a bit cheaper, I'd consider having another in the stable for
    occasional use.

    Plenty of shitters out there now and always used to be a target for
    thieving pikey chav bastards, so choose wisely.

    (1) For a modern Italian scooter.
     
    JackH, Sep 10, 2010
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    crn Guest

    O ye of little faith.
    Sold, paid and collected. £325 cash
    Gumtree rocks, only listed it yesterday and the phone calls keep coming.
    There seems to be a thriving market in 50cc cheap stuff for teenagers.
     
    crn, Sep 10, 2010
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    Lozzo Guest

    Buzby wrote:

    Buy a TGB, dirt cheap but reliable as most Hondas mainly because Honda
    make a lot of their scooters in China. TGB are Taiwanese but fucking
    well engineered for a cheap scooter. They just don't break. New ones
    are cheap as chips too.

    Avoid anything Chinese and all Peugeots, cos they are also mainly
    Chinese shite with French badges. Italian stuff isn't bad if it's low
    mileage and cared for, but avoid anything owned by a teenager cos it'll
    be fucked and worthless. I've only seen 2 scooters owned by teenagers
    that have been cared for, and that's because they're owned by 2 well
    brought up lads whose dads and brothers are serious bike riders.


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    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
    (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Sep 10, 2010
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    Donnie Guest

    Do SupaMoto happen to sell TGB??
    Only fucking with ya, there are a few good chinese / taiwanese makes
    and while a Gilera Runner 180cc 2stroke would be the bollox fun wise,
    the parts can be fucking expensive frankly!
    What about a lambretta? [1]

    [1] Ducks!
     
    Donnie, Sep 10, 2010
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    Lozzo Guest

    There's one born every fucking minute. I'd feel guilty selling a
    Chinese bike to anyone.

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    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
    (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Sep 10, 2010
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  10. crn

    Donnie Guest

    **** it, it's a life experience for any scrote :)
     
    Donnie, Sep 10, 2010
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    Lozzo Guest

    SupaMoto do sell TGB, but I first heard about them a long time ago when
    I was working for Bickers. A guy in the arches behind the new Lambeth
    bus terminus was selling them and reckoned they were the best scooters
    he'd ever seen. I was pretty pleased when I saw them in the showroom
    cos I trust them.

    Btw, I'm leaving SupaMoto in 4 days, I start back surveying houses for
    the old firm after I get back from holiday ... and I'm not on sales
    commission anyway :)

    Italian parts can be expensive, but you don't really need them much if
    the bike is cared for and regularly serviced. I quite like the Piaggio
    Group stuff because we don't get the usual scooter-type problems with
    it.
    A Vespa maybe, basically because they are a lot simpler and far more
    reliable than Vespas.



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    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
    (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Sep 10, 2010
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    Donnie Guest

    so, there's a job going there????????????
    Ah, well you should meet some of the GTS and Runner riders I know!!
    A Vespa is more reliable than a Vespa?

    Rest now old man, just rest, enjoy those last days of the holiday, you
    need it :)

    --
    Donnie
    "**** the world, it's time to fight back"

    Lambretta Series 2 186cc "The Shitter"
    Lambretta LD 175cc "The Chopper"
    Honda CB500R "Look out, Donnie's about!"
     
    Donnie, Sep 10, 2010
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    SteveH Guest

    This is the 'Taiwan Golden Bee' company, located in Taiwan, governed by
    China?

    Which means they're no better than any other Chinese bike - as the
    online owner reviews confirm.
     
    SteveH, Sep 10, 2010
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    wessie Guest

    I doubt it. I don't suppose they will be as busy until next April. Seems
    like a reasonable "odd jobber share", spend 6 months in a bike shop during
    the busy months and then sell/survey insulation when people start thinking
    about winter gas bills.
     
    wessie, Sep 10, 2010
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    wessie Guest

    (SteveH) wrote in :
    You need to read wikipedia. Taiwan is not governed by the Chinese
    government based in Beijing. There are 2 countries who claim to be the real
    China. RoC and PRoC[1]. They have been sabre[2] rattling for decades.

    [1] "Republic of China, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia,
    Not to be confused with the People's Republic of China."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China
    [2] where the sabre has been the entire 7th US fleet at times
     
    wessie, Sep 10, 2010
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  16. crn

    SteveH Guest

    You learn something new every day.

    Still doesn't make much difference to the quality of said scooter,
    though.
     
    SteveH, Sep 10, 2010
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    wessie Guest

    (SteveH) wrote in :

    If I move into an urban environment in the near future I might consider a
    scooter as the R-GS is crap in narrow streets. I looked up the dealer list
    for these things. Merthyr & Pontypridd are the nearest dealers, which puts
    me off more than the Taiwan origin.
     
    wessie, Sep 11, 2010
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    Lozzo Guest

    Steve, one day you'll actually have some solid basis for a review of
    something 2-wheeled, until then, shut the **** up and leave this sort
    of thing to the adults

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    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Tourer, CBR600F-W racebike in the making, TS250C, RD400F
    (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Sep 11, 2010
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    SteveH Guest

    Well, it's funny how the first hits I read gave them the same kind of
    reviews as any other bikes from the region.
    Yes, my knowledge of the politics out there is completely shite.

    Doesn't change the fact that the bikes are shite.
     
    SteveH, Sep 11, 2010
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    SteveH Guest

    And your view is based on what? - some bloke in the arches at Lambeth?

    Or perhaps you have some kind of interest in the brand....

    Having just largely taken apart and put back together a Hongdou,
    replacing a large proportion of the fasteners as I did it, I can confirm
    that bikes from that region may look half decent, but are actually made
    of cheese.
     
    SteveH, Sep 11, 2010
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