One thing, why is the GTR over £2k more than the ZZR?[QUOTE] How about "a bit like a Blackbird, but fun to ride too" ?[/QUOTE] With a not "leany-forwardy" riding position. Of course, things may change. [QUOTE] Eh? Is that likely to be expensive?[/QUOTE] Could be: it's got a very slightly weepy fork seal. The expensive bit will be the alternator upgrade, and a proper service. Anyway, I misled you, the two aren't inextricably linked. It's more a timing thing. I'm not sure I wanna get a new bike just in time for the winter. [QUOTE] And don't you have to do it every year?[/QUOTE] Exactly - never ending expense.