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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Big Tony, Jul 9, 2008.

  1. Big Tony

    Big Tony Guest

    Let Lozzo and the other prophets of doom say their piece now.

    So far it's done the sum total of 24 kms without incident. First
    impressions are: similar to the 1150 GS but with rather a lot of
    gizmos on board as standard.
     
    Big Tony, Jul 9, 2008
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    wessie Guest

    Research "ring antenna" [1]

    The only bike to break down in a group of 30 odd on a trip to Austria &
    Switzerland was a nearly new R1200GS. It intermittently failed to start
    which is a typical ring antenna fault. It was eventually put on a truck in
    Metz and the rider & pillion flew home.

    Loads of identical failures are being reported on UKGSer.

    [1] the antenna that detects the RFID in the ignition key
     
    wessie, Jul 9, 2008
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    Jérémy Guest

    :

    jpg?

    ob:ukrm-pedant: your sigsep's fucked
     
    Jérémy, Jul 9, 2008
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  4. Big Tony

    Jérémy Guest

    My RT did that, although I do wonder whether it was merely a coincidence
    that it happened shortly after I acquired a jet washer.

    Whatever, it's a bit extreme to dump the bike and fly home. It is
    reparable. In about 2 hours in my case.
     
    Jérémy, Jul 9, 2008
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  5. Big Tony

    wessie Guest

    It was a Sunday. BMW Assist were complete cunts, to begin with. They wanted
    the rider to let the recovery bod take the bike to a compound for storage.
    The nearest BMW dealer would not be open until Tuesday, as most bike
    dealers close on Monday in France. Then there would not be any guarantee
    that they had the part (it's on back order in the UK due to the frequency
    of failure). The rider & pillion would then be put up in a hotel for
    however long it took to fix the bike. Not really what you want when you
    have a Monday ferry scheduled and wish to return to work on Tuesday.

    Eventually, after 5 hours of phone calls to & fro, BMW Assist agreed to
    repatriate the rider & pillion so that they could get home for work on
    Tuesday as planned. The bike would also be returned to a UK dealer to be
    fixed.
     
    wessie, Jul 9, 2008
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  6. Big Tony

    Big Tony Guest

    Apparently it's been sorted already. We shall see.
     
    Big Tony, Jul 9, 2008
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  7. Big Tony

    Big Tony Guest

    I haven't taken one yet or got a website to host one. Suffice to say
    it's big and it's blue.


    Get over it.
     
    Big Tony, Jul 9, 2008
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    wessie Guest

    Apparently not.

    As you know, I'm a regular reader of UKGSer and also ride around with
    quite a few GS owners.

    Problems with the R1100 & R1150 GS models are few and far between.
    Despite the R1200GS being around for some 4 years and 100,000 models
    sold they are still plagued with one gremlin after another.

    It's not only the GS models. As Jeremy reports, his bike had the same
    ring antenna fault. BMW are probably sourcing many sub-assemblies from
    cheap & nasty suppliers in Eastern Europe and the Far East.

    As recent TV documentaries have shown, you may have a contract with
    Company X that meets your quality criteria. However, these often
    sub-contract to dodgy back-street outfits.
     
    wessie, Jul 9, 2008
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    *ding*. Which is why I bought a low-ish mileage 1150RT. Well that, and
    the fact that the 1200RT is pig ugly IMHO.
    Triumph of good enough engineering, isn't it. Keeps the accountants
    happy and **** the long-term damage to the brand.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jul 9, 2008
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  10. Big Tony

    wessie Guest

    The KTM[0] & Yamaha[1] boards of directors are happy with BMW's policy...


    [0] many dejected R1200GS owners are buying the KTM Adv
    [1] just look at how many police forces are using FJR1300s now
     
    wessie, Jul 9, 2008
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    SD Guest

    Well done, that chap. Ideal bike for the territory, imle.

    Next stop, Cape Reinga? Or Bluff?
     
    SD, Jul 9, 2008
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I'm not totally convinced by the build quality of my KTM. It isn't
    falling apart but a lot of fasteners are showing major signs of
    corrosion, the span adjusters on the levers look as if they're a few
    years old, the instrument pod didn't enjoy going out in the rain and
    there are other signs of 'premature ageing'. It's a cracking bike to
    ride but it's lacking when it comes to build quality even compared o
    my Kawasaki.
    If I was looking for that type of bike I'd probably go for the KTM
    just because I don't want to be accused of being sucked in by the TV
    hype surrounding the BMW.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jul 9, 2008
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    I'd imagine. In fact, if it wasn't such a hassle to find a really good
    independent mechanic to work on Hondas, KTMs or Yamahas, I'd probably
    change as well. But I'd rather make the choice of commuter/business bike
    based on the service I can get from whoever looks after it.
    I am/was tempted as well.
    Yep.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jul 9, 2008
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    Jérémy Guest

    To be fair, I've done 35,000km on the bike and it's the only problem I've
    had. I'm very pleased with it.
     
    Jérémy, Jul 10, 2008
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  15. Big Tony

    Jérémy Guest

    Well, I don't care, but the UKRM heavies will be along shortly to pull your
    toenails out.
     
    Jérémy, Jul 10, 2008
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  16. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Jérémy
    "We're gonna need bigger pliers"
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jul 10, 2008
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  17. Big Tony

    platypus Guest

    You've not met Tony?
     
    platypus, Jul 10, 2008
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  18. Big Tony

    Big Tony Guest

    Dunno. I might wait till the summer or at least the spring for such a
    trip. The desert road has been closed due to snow quite a bit lately
    so going south on two wheels is only for the brave.

    Northwards would be easier but can you believe they've now sealed the
    road up to Cape Reinga. I suppose there's always 90 mile beach as an
    alternative.
     
    Big Tony, Jul 10, 2008
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  19. Big Tony

    Jérémy Guest

    I regret I've never had the pleasure of meeting any of you.
     
    Jérémy, Jul 10, 2008
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  20. Big Tony

    Big Tony Guest

    I test rode a 990 Adventure and it's without a doubt a very good bike.
    Lots of power but the throttle's like an on/off switch when moving at
    slower speeds. I'm told this is down to the fuel injection. It's more
    off-road biased than the BMW with a 21" front wheel. Having said that,
    it ticked most of the boxes for me and I seriously considered
    purchasing one. If you are buying the bike for a round the world trip
    on mainly gravel roads it would be the only choice IMHO. However, I am
    planning to mainly ride on sealed roads and the beemer offers a few
    more creature comforts and should need less attention when in use as a
    daily commuter.
     
    Big Tony, Jul 10, 2008
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