Simulator : why not?

Looking at 2 kids playing happily on a make believe bike at a supermarket -
thought occurs; why isn't there the equivalent of an aeronautical simulator
for 2 wheeled vehicles?

Answer : because there ain't enough money in it stupid - to save a gazillion
dollars on a real jumbo you can spend a lot of capital in mimicking the
behavior of the airplane and things that affect its operation.

Yes but - the inputs to a 2 wheeled vehicle moving basically on 2 axes can't
be that difficult compared to 3 infinitely variable control axes in an aero
simulator - variable pressure sensors on the bars and the pegs would give
you directional control and only need a sensor for acceleration and
deceleration and its all there, no?

Nah because the resolution of the vectors is a lot more complex than you
have time to contemplate waiting to get to the check out at Woolies - think
about how to factor in the gyroscopic effect of the wheels and a few
centrifugal and centripetal forces and its a bit more complex than you first
thought pedro.

And who is going to bother to develop software for bunch of 2 wheeled petrol
heads - and if it ain't comparable to the real world and only likely to save
you some paint or skin, who will pay for it?

Am I right in thinking it ain't gonna fly any time soon Orville?


Best, Andrew

 

A research mob an some uni in UK announced just such a simulator a few
months ago.

I know of a retail entity in Sydney who is also looking to patent &
build such simulators, for use in training for newbies.

David

 

There is...or should that be there are....

It's not quite as simple as that, but it is doable.

People who have a need for such a device will pay for it.

AFAIK, in Japan, you have to do time on a motorcycle simulator before
getting a licence to be out on the road.

Hence there are, in Japan, motorcycle simulators.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

Well, not necessarily. Are there people in Japan with licenses to
be out on the road? If there are not, then there are no motorcycle
simulators


GB, I see your hypothesis and raise you (it) to new levels of
logistical inconsistency

 

You need to get out more.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

There was that "Manx TT" arcade game a while back, that had a not too
bad (OK, somewhat less that absolutley horrid) simulated bike to
ride...

http://www.sau.sega.com/archive/manxtt.aspx


BTH

 

Oooh!

http://www.highway.net.au/parts/driving_machines/4500_1.html


BTH

 

Don't you have a *real* motorcycle that doesn't work?

 

Err, actually I have 4 that don't work (and 2 that do!)


BTH

 

Uh, I'm working on being an academic when I grow up. I need
to get in more.

No, wait...


GB

 

If those simulators are anything like the one at H.A.R.T. in Melbourne,
they're traffic simulators, not necessarily motorcycle simulators. They
test/teach reaction to situations, not proficiency in the handling of
a vehicle. Their simulator was merely a car-simulator with a motorcycle
saddle and controls, so while the brake and throttle were in the right
place, it's steering was more like a Victor mower, and behaved like no
vehicle I have ever driven.

Nev..
'07 XB12X

 

HD?

mh

 

Nev.. wrote:

Hi Nev. The HART one is one of the earlier versions developed in Japan.

You are perfectly right, they are designed to test/teach reactions to
situations arising in traffic.

I believe that the current crop of simulators in Japan are an
improvement on the HART model, but have no direct knowledge of them.

In a technical sense, there is no reason why a super detailed simulator
could not be built, if it hasn't already, but a simulator which is good
enough to do the job it was designed for, is all that is required.

regards,
CrazyCam