Sintered pads?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by cat, Nov 27, 2008.

  1. cat

    JackH Guest

    I'm not disputing what Muck says, I'm just questioning why it is that, given
    that 'Copper Slip' is a grease of sorts and therefore a lubricant that just
    happens to have copper in it, copper would be marked down as the metallic
    element in sintered pads that causes the high wear of discs and is therefore
    the most abrasive.

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    JackH

    98 Honda VFR800FiW
    03 VW Passat TDI Sport (resting)
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    JackH, Nov 28, 2008
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  2. cat

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:29:50 -0000, "JackH"

    snip>
    Copper slip isn't a grease or a lubricant, it's an anti-seize
    compound.

    The reason it works as an anti-seize compound is because it puts a
    layer of what's known as a 'dissimilar material' into the joint and
    copper is just one small part of that compound.

    Easy to understand.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Nov 28, 2008
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  3. cat

    JackH Guest

    http://www.molyslip.com/Products/Copaslip.html

    Ok... not disputing what you say but the Molyslip site states the following:

    a.. At points of high friction: Copaslip protects where conventional
    lubricants break down such as drawing and forming metals; lathe centres and
    slides; wire ropes and chains, (particularly In very arduous conditions).


    a.. In any assembly process: Copaslip reduces nut driving torque
    requirements compared to oil or grease In addition to greatly increasing the
    ease of dismantling. Use as a lubricant behind disc brake pads to reduce
    squeal, on pivot points and adjusters; on manifold, muffler and pipe bolts
    and connections; spark plug threads and cylinder head bolts.

    Hence why I was under the impression it's a lubricant / grease of sorts.
    Oh, aye.

    I still don't quite get why, given it's soft compared to iron etc, copper
    would be the most abrasive metallic element in the compound that makes up a
    sintered pad though.

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    JackH

    98 Honda VFR800FiW
    03 VW Passat TDI Sport (resting)
    89 Vauxhall Nova 1.3 Pearl (for sale)
    00 Peugeot 306 HDI Meridian
     
    JackH, Nov 28, 2008
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  4. cat

    fragmented Guest

    'JackH' wrote...>
    The copper isn't used as a friction material, its used as a reinforcing
    material.

    See
    http://www.ae-plus.com/Journals/Materials - Review of automotive brake
    friction materials.pdf

    http://tinyurl.com/6ohlzo
     
    fragmented, Nov 28, 2008
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