'small' impact driver

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Simon Wilson, Oct 9, 2009.

  1. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    According to the Bandit workshop manual, it says to remove the float
    bowl screws using an impact driver. I have an impact driver, but it's a
    bloody great big affair. Is there such a thing as a small impact driver?
    The screws are currently proving to be rather stubborn - any good
    tips for getting them out?
     
    Simon Wilson, Oct 9, 2009
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    zymurgy Guest

    Use a good fitting screwdriver. I find a screwdriver bit in a long "T"
    handle works well. Forget the impact driver, it's a sledgehammert to
    crack a nut.

    Loosen and retighten anyihing on the handlebars that's secured by
    screws too periodically. Saves trouble later on ..

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Oct 9, 2009
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    Swear words.
    Soak liberally with Plusgas first, then wait a bit, then choose your
    very best screwdriver or interchangeable bit. Cross fingers of hand
    holding carb upside down firmly. Push down on screwdriver very firmly
    and repeat the mantra "shift yer barstard."

    Or secure carb firmly but gently in a vice. Use an adaptor on normal
    impact driver to take small drive extension and bit. Apply small
    brummagem screwdriver.


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    Pete Fisher, Oct 9, 2009
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  4. Simon Wilson

    zymurgy Guest

    Yup, this is the important bit. I have a selection of really good
    screwdrivers I don't use for 'general stuff' for this, and choose the
    one that fits best.
    If you can get a good fitting bit, and get a 3/8" adaptor onto
    something hefty like this,

    http://www.teng.co.uk/m380015-c-teng-tools-3-or-8-inches-drive-10-inches-spinner-handle_1157_pd.asp

    you get better thrutch on it.

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Oct 9, 2009
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    crn Guest

    Turn the air pressure down a bit and use the rattle gun.
     
    crn, Oct 9, 2009
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  6. Simon Wilson

    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué
    I have a pikey Aldi set of numerous screwdriver bits (including torx and
    other oddities) and a 1/4 drive adapter. Usually one of them is a much
    better fit than anything else.
    Indeed. I've got a 1/4 drive version, also a 3/8 to 1/4 adaptor for do
    or die situations.

    Also a small natty 90 degree ratchet driver thingy I got from a show
    years ago. Reaches the parts...


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  7. Simon Wilson

    Pete Fisher Guest

    The small gas soldering iron I got from Aldi has a hot air blower head.
    Very useful for applying heat without a naked flame.


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    Colin Irvine Guest

    You can imitate an impact screwdriver simply by tapping on the end of
    an ordinary screwdriver with a hammer as you give the screwdriver a
    short hard twist. That way you can use your best-fitting screwdriver.
    And it does work!
     
    Colin Irvine, Oct 9, 2009
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  9. Simon Wilson

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Grind the heads off, remove the float bowl and then remove the remains
    of the screws using a pair of needle nosed pliers. They'll come out
    easily once the load is off them and new screws will be cheap enough
    to buy.

    Obviously this is the last resort but once you've fucked the screw
    heads up you've got nothing to lose.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 9, 2009
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  10. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    Is quite likely what's going to happen. The screws are -really- soft.
    Avoiding the use of hammers is always good in my case anyway. I had
    already ordered a set of replacement screws (stainless, cap heads).
     
    Simon Wilson, Oct 9, 2009
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  11. A good close-fitting screwdriver and taps with a small hammer.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 9, 2009
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  12. And if you're lucky, the cheese won't shear.
    Always tap it first.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 9, 2009
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  13. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    Aye. Thanks for that suggestion from you and Colin. The trouble is with
    my 'taps' is that if they don't work, they turn into 'belts, whacks and
    thumps' and stuff breaks.
     
    Simon Wilson, Oct 9, 2009
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  14. Simon Wilson

    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué <>, Grimly
    Mechanics feel as Pirsig calls it innit? IME the bit starts to pan out
    of the head or the slots open up before it shears. Then I switch to the
    hammer strategy. Depends if your hoping for a quick diagnostic look see
    or doing a full restoration. Hard to hold a carb and hit a screwdriver
    with a hammer at the same time. If in doubt probably best to find a way
    to secure it firmly anyway before trying to get them out.

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  15. Simon Wilson

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    If you're visiting Ampthill any time over the next 10 days feel free
    to drop in and I'll smash the screws out for you :)
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 9, 2009
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  16. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    I'm hoping to organise the WUN/Mill/Turn/Beer/Curry event within that time.
     
    Simon Wilson, Oct 9, 2009
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    platypus Guest

    If you can get round the back of the piece, one useful trick is to use one
    of those hexagonal screwdriver bits, held in place with a C-clamp, and break
    the stiction with a spanner on the hex bit. Obviously the C-clamp will stop
    it from unscrewing more than a quarter turn max, but that should be enough
    to free it.
     
    platypus, Oct 9, 2009
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  18. Simon Wilson

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Ok. I've had the plaster removed from my hand now so I feel more
    sociable and less likely to drop beer/curry all over myself than I was
    previously.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 9, 2009
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    zymurgy Guest

    Heh. Lathe party.

    I'm staying in digs near St Neots for the next few weeks, so if any of
    the Bedford-isti are free for a few jars ...

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Oct 9, 2009
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  20. Simon Wilson

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Yebbut you're working so wouldn't want to sit on park benches drinking
    beer with us idle bastards.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Oct 9, 2009
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