Snetterton yesterday

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pip Luscher, Jun 5, 2008.

  1. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    That went...reasonably well, I suppose.

    Feeling that I really ought to take the R1 on track at least once
    before I flog it, and thinking that Snetterton would be a good place
    for it, I booked an evening session with Focused Events.

    The weather miraculously cleared so I was reasonably optimistic, well
    in a 'this is the last track day I'll ever do. I mean it this time.'
    sort of way. The fact that the R1 is the prettiest bike of my fleet
    made me even more worried about dropping it - especially as I was
    toying with the idea of selling it.

    There were only two groups, Fast and Slow. I chose the Not Fast group.

    We had three sighting laps, then the sessions proper started.

    First session: OK, I guess. I generally got passed more than I
    overtook myself, so speed-wise about a third of the riders were slower
    than me. I was too busy trying to get used to riding on a track
    again, so the only thing I really picked up was that I seemed to be
    hitting apexes just where some thoughtful soul had placed cones, apart
    from the Russels chicane left-hander, where I was apexing too early
    and running wide, almost into the pit lane entrance. Worse, I was
    tending to roll off the throttle too early on the straights.

    Second session: I seemed to have lost it completely. Much slower. I
    tried different gears out of corners, but the problem was that I
    either used a higher gear, and had a smooth throttle take-up but no
    grunt for a few seconds out of the corner, or a lower gear -
    especially at Russels - where touching the throttle caused the bike -
    and my sphincter - to twitch badly as the power cut in. I was rolling
    off, if anything, even earlier on the straights, so bikes were flying
    past into the corners.

    I found that whenever a rider I was close behind rolled off too early,
    instead of just nipping round, I'd roll off too. I finally realized
    this when, approaching the Esses, I suddenly thought: "the corner's
    fucking miles away" and rolled the power on again. The R1 surged
    forward and the other bike was history. I'll say this about the R1: it
    doesn't feel as exciting on the power as my Tuono, but it is bloody
    quick.

    A few riders ran wide and I saw about three bikes off the track on
    this session. The session was red flagged but really only with a
    couple of minutes left, at a guess.

    I was seriously thinking of giving up but decided to do a few laps of
    the third session, then pack up. Well, I'm glad I did. Because of an
    admonition by the organizers to take it a bit easier in light of the
    recent offs, several riders too it too much to heart and I passed a
    few in the first couple of laps, then later out braked a couple more
    into the Esses on successive laps. With clear track ahead, I was
    suddenly much more confident. Faster bikes did eventually come past
    but I reckon it was about an even taken/overtaken ratio at the end.
    I'd begun to get a handle on Russels, but I still had a problem with
    the right-left transition. I also felt that I didn't have as much
    confidence on the brakes as I've had with other bikes; dunno why.

    The session ended full time and I was pleased with my progress.

    Mulling over the sessions I'd done as I packed, I realized what my
    problem was: I was rolling off and aiming slightly off-line whenever
    there were groups of bikes less than about 100m in front of me:
    basically my road instincts were taking over. Whenever the track was
    clear I'd blast up to the corners well over to the outside and brake
    relatively hard and late. I've not had this problem on track before
    and can only put it down to the higher speeds at Snetterton: seeing
    those clusters of brake lights ahead while barrelling along at high
    speed was really unsettling and I realized that I was worried about
    shunting someone. It was a good feeling to figure out what the problem
    was.

    There was a fourth session but as I'd started packing up (we were told
    we should get three sessions) I decided I'd give it a miss and leave
    on a high note.

    Last track day? Err, no. I'm already thinking of booking another one.
    I probably won't take the R1 again but will use the Tuono, which came
    pre-disastered. I fancy somewhere a bit twistier next time.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 5, 2008
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  2. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Heh. It's a '98 with 22K on it. I've sort of changed my mind since the
    track day. Ish. Troube ls, I think of selling it, then see it looking
    mean in the garage, then ride it...
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 5, 2008
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  3. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Erk. If they're going for that little then I'm definitely holding onto
    mine. Anyway, the gay red & white ones are faster. S'afact.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 6, 2008
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  4. Pip Luscher

    Lozzo Guest

    I had a gay red and white 98 model in my garage until last week. It has
    a serious steering head bearing problem, in that the upper outer race
    falls out of the headstock - that'll be a new frame then.

    The owner has decided to break it, so if anyone wants 6 pot PFM discs
    and calipers, Dymag wheels, Ohlins shock, Harris rearsets or a set of
    flat-slides, give me a shout.

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    Lozzo
    Suzuki SV650S K5
    Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
    Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
    Suzuki GSXR750 L
    Suzuki TS50X
    Suzuki TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Jun 6, 2008
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  5. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Gah! If you'd said that ten months ago I'd have bitten his hand off. I
    fitted new discs that long ago.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 6, 2008
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  6. Pip Luscher

    Lozzo Guest

    The rearsets are actually quite good for the R1. I'll have a word with
    the RattMeister and get back to you.

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    Lozzo
    Suzuki SV650S K5
    Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
    Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
    Suzuki GSXR750 L
    Suzuki TS50X
    Suzuki TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Jun 6, 2008
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  7. Pip Luscher

    Lozzo Guest

    With the right spacers they'll fit your Gixer. A Dymag is a Dymag, it's
    the adaptors and spacers that are usually different between models.
    I've seen people have new adaptor plates and spacers to make Gixer
    wheels go in ZX10Rs.

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    Lozzo
    Suzuki SV650S K5
    Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
    Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
    Suzuki GSXR750 L
    Suzuki TS50X
    Suzuki TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Jun 6, 2008
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Surely it can be fixed with a spot of Loctite and the Nige out on
    Ebay?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jun 6, 2008
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  9. Pip Luscher

    Lozzo Guest

    This guy likes to sleep at night

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    Lozzo
    Suzuki SV650S K5
    Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
    Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
    Suzuki GSXR750 L
    Suzuki TS50X
    Suzuki TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Jun 6, 2008
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  10. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    How the hell did he do that?
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 6, 2008
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  11. Pip Luscher

    Lozzo Guest

    Ex-race bike, it's been abused in ways Bear can only dream of

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    Lozzo
    Suzuki SV650S K5
    Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
    Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
    Suzuki GSXR750 L
    Suzuki TS50X
    Suzuki TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Jun 6, 2008
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  12. Pip Luscher

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Ok. Just put a series of centre punch dots around the bearing seat and
    then glue it in.

    If that fails then put a couple of runs of weld around the outside of
    the headstock then dress the headstock so you can't see where the weld
    was. The weld will shrink the headstock and the bearing will be a good
    fit.

    Don't tell me that's not a decent repair because if it's good enough
    for Lloyds inspectors to pass off similar on marine work then it's
    good enough for a bearing on a set of forks.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jun 6, 2008
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  13. Pip Luscher

    Lozzo Guest

    The Dymags and Ohlins weren't on it when it was raced, Ratty fitted
    them within the last two years, after he bought it and all it's done
    since then is the occasional trackday and some road riding.

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    Lozzo
    Suzuki SV650S K5
    Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
    Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
    Suzuki GSXR750 L
    Suzuki TS50X
    Suzuki TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Jun 6, 2008
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  14. Pip Luscher

    Lozzo Guest

    Can you prove they weren't?

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    Lozzo
    Suzuki SV650S K5
    Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
    Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
    Suzuki GSXR750 L
    Suzuki TS50X
    Suzuki TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Jun 6, 2008
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  15. Pip Luscher

    Lozzo Guest

    You are *one* of the prospective purchasers, and no doubt the others
    won't be arsed to ask questions or blag a super-bargain :)

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    Lozzo
    Suzuki SV650S K5
    Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
    Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
    Suzuki GSXR750 L
    Suzuki TS50X
    Suzuki TS50X
     
    Lozzo, Jun 6, 2008
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    Lozzo Guest

     
    Lozzo, Jun 6, 2008
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