[QUOTE="On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:23:21 +0000, Champ"] A good few cm in central Cheltenham, so I turned the traction control off and enjoyed myself for 500 yds. Then I got to the main road which, disappointly, was completely clear.[/QUOTE] After seeing the results of a Rover/Porsche/Renault sandwich on the road mine joins, and being told someone had spun on it, I just walked to work.