[QUOTE="Mark N"] Newsflash, Julian - there is always an opening on the inside going ito a corner, no one runs right on the inside curbing going in. The issue is always how much of an opening there is, how far back the trailing rider is, and can he get by cleanly.[/QUOTE] I guess you didn't watch any of Magny Cours then. Every single race had at least one person doing the exact same thing as Simoncelli at the dead stop corners. Probably best for this was the 600 Superstocks (Go Gino!). [QUOTE] Now you're thinking like a real Italian - blame the fakking track...[/QUOTE] Dead stop chicanes and hairpins have no place in motorcycle racing. Every single one of them has caused accidents and messes up the racing. I hate them.