SOB part query

Discussion in 'Classic Motorcycles' started by ts, Aug 5, 2010.

  1. ts

    ts Guest

    In the process of reverting my '78 R80 back to standard ignition, I've
    discovered that the optical pick-up at the camshaft of the aftermarket
    electronic ignition came with it's own rotating backplate.

    So I'm in need of one of the original backplates, the one that has the
    points attached to it, and which is rotated to set the timimg.

    Anyone got one of those collecting dust in a drawer?
     
    ts, Aug 5, 2010
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  2. Try MotorWorks. I'll bet they have them, new and used.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 5, 2010
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    Hog Guest

    WHY
     
    Hog, Aug 5, 2010
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    ts Guest

    I had a look at their website, which shows used ones at "only" £28.
    Which made me wonder if it was made from titanium or one of the rare
    earth metals. FFS, to me it looks like a basic, ca 50 mm Ø perforated
    iron plate . . . which should be in surplus on the market, considering
    how many of those bikes have been converted to electronic ignition.
     
    ts, Aug 5, 2010
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  5. ts

    ts Guest

    Simplicity. Originality. To get it running again with minimal effort
    when the EI breaks down.
     
    ts, Aug 5, 2010
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  6. I'm with Olson. Leave it on electronic. It's less likely to break down,
    and will run better anyway.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 5, 2010
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  7. Yebbut, I just don't understand this sort of hankering for something
    that "can easily be fixed". My idea of machinery is that it shouldn't go
    wrong in the first place, not that it should be easy to mend when it
    does.

    And by and large, electronic ignitions don't go wrong anywhere near as
    often as points systems, require zero maintenance, and make an engine
    run better. What's not to like?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 6, 2010
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    crn Guest

    Or maybe he wants his classic bike to be authentic.
     
    crn, Aug 7, 2010
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    boxerboy Guest

    Plus there's not a lot on the TV at the moment and he might want
    something to keep himself occupied! Some people need a mission in
    life!

    Having had boxers with both points and EI I would want to keep EI,
    even if it took me a few weeks extra to save up the money to replace a
    broken EI

    Boxerboy
     
    boxerboy, Aug 7, 2010
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  10. ts

    ts Guest

    One coconut to Champ for the correct answer.

    The current EI was fitted to replace one that failed in the most
    spectacular fashion[1]. Whilst troubleshooting the latter, I came across
    plenty of reports of other's EIs that also had failed, or worked not as
    good as points, both without and with detailed explanations why.

    So I want to see how my R80 runs with points, and if not better than EI,
    to keep as a back-up system that will allow me to continue a journey
    when EI #2 gives up the ghost.

    Back to my parts query; if everyone agrees that EI _is_ better than
    points, why is there no surplus of said part, and why can used ones
    command prices approaching 1/10 of a SOB?
    I am tempted to take that as a compliment.


    [1]Two days before longer journey, after lots of work to improve the
    reliability/performance of the bike. But for some reason I let the
    aftermarket EI in peace, because "they don't fail" . . . - hah.
     
    ts, Aug 7, 2010
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    Jim Guest

    Perhaps there just aren't many working ones left?
     
    Jim, Aug 9, 2010
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    SteveH Guest

    I was thinking it was because all the sensible types threw them in the
    bin years ago. Which ties in nicely with your theory.
     
    SteveH, Aug 9, 2010
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    A.Clews Guest

    Thus spake Jordan () unto the assembled multitudes:
    I still have somewhere in my garage an unused piston for a +80 thou overbored
    BSA C15 basket case that I abandoned and threw in a skip in 1986 (coo! if
    only eBay had been around then). It will never be of any use, but an unused
    piston is something of a thing of beauty, which is prolly why I couldn't bear
    to get rid of it.
     
    A.Clews, Aug 18, 2010
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  14. ts

    A.Clews Guest

    Thus spake Jordan () unto the assembled multitudes:
    I had the barrel bored out too, of course, with the crazy idea of trying to
    build a C15 that went fast (well, fast for a C15 anyway). I was only 20 at
    the time. Even if it had been built, I am sure the big end bearings would
    not have lasted long. By then I had a Tiger 650 and no money, so the poor
    old C15's bits lanquished in a box for another 10 years until I gave up
    (prompted by the then wife) and threw them out. Should have thrown the wife
    out instead, but she saved me the trouble ten years later anyway.
    That'd be a nice paperweight :)
     
    A.Clews, Aug 18, 2010
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    Rusty Hinge Guest

    In Stornoway I witnessed the shipping of a - correction - the - piston
    out of a Norwegian trawler - it came out of the hatch on a pallet. and
    you wouldn't have got two on it, either.

    Paperweight, or what?
     
    Rusty Hinge, Sep 18, 2010
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    Guest Guest

    Sherlocks in South Molton used to have a pretty big Diesel piston next
    to the spares counter. They said it was from a German sub, which is
    plausible but I've no idea if it was true. About 10" diameter IIRC, with
    its con-rod. Not in the same league really, but hey.
     
    Guest, Sep 19, 2010
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  17. ts

    Rusty Hinge Guest

    Not really - allegedly you could get inside the cylinder (singular) of
    one of those engines to decoke it. (Big plug?)

    They were amusing to watch in the harbour - boomp.......boomp......
    boomp......boomp, and being out of time with each other they bobbed up
    and down like a slowed-down pondful of pogo danceers.
     
    Rusty Hinge, Sep 19, 2010
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