[QUOTE="ogden"] Precisely. Rule number 1 in vehicle threads: always recommend what you own![/QUOTE] TBF I am pretty obsessed with getting such things right so I blag days away with everything on the list until I find out what's right. Does this sound like Darcy? I don't own a Carrera 4, but I have, it was a 2001 car. For values of 2001 I don't think you can get better for: performance, running cost (not main dealer!), handling, residuals etc. If you want midrange price fun I'd go with the RX-8, or the Ford ST which I freely admit to having not driven but it sounds kosher. Big older saloon? 7Ser every time. Cheap speed/fun older M3. Wanna be area sales manager, 330Ci. Standard abbreviation for porsches is C2, C4, C2S, C4S etc. 997 is the current model. 996 is the last and pre 2004 version.