Some road saftey ideas and questions - random

So what do you suggest WILL work?
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Cheers

PeterC [aka MildThing]


'01 Yamaha FJR1300

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A black box recorder.
Nothing else would be fair.

 

Yeah; 40 years ago Queensland had a free hospital system that was funded by
the "Golden Casket" [1] lottery.
People used to dutifully buy their Casket tickets happy in the knowledge the
money was going to a good cause.......
Then the bastard state govt took over "funding" the hospitals and running
the lottery and now the lotteries are a major source of general state
revenue while the hospitals are in crisis!

 

That sounds like the Qld logic where they've dropped the speed-limits on
some stretches because there's been some nasty crashes on them.
The nasty crashes all involved vehicles doing 30+km OVER the existing
speed-limit though so the lower limits will only affect the people who
obeyed the previous speed limits.... the people who weren't the problem in
the first place!

 

Crucifixion!

Theo

 

For a first offence ...

Cheers
Goaty
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"I'll fump him if he calls me big-nose again!"

 

In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:24:27 +1100

THe idea is that if you don't know there's one then you will slow
everywhere.

The end result though is that the penalty is so decoupled from the act
that it doesn't have that result.

Or so I have thought, but I understand averge speeds have dropped in
Vic where there are a hell of a lot of them and the tolerance is low?

Any Vics comment on this? Has the average speed dropped in your
experience? I don't think the road toll has....

(Which wouldn't surprise me seeing as the average city crash is at an
intersection where the problem isn't one car doing over the limit it
is that one car isn't stopped...)

Yup. THere isn't quite only one as Google once found me a rather
ditzy teenager in the States who used it as a handle but on the whole
if you find a Zebee being loud in usenet it is going to be me...

Zebee

 

You've got to be kidding. Sydney/NSW has way more speed cameras than
Melbourne/Vic.

The average speed and the road toll have dropped since speed cameras
were introduced in Vic, but then, to attribute the reduction in toll to
the cameras, without taking into consideration some of the improvements
in car safety over that time is absurd.

Here's a graph of road fatalities in Australia since 1989 by state.
Draw from it what conclusions you will. http://tinyurl.com/yqyel9

Nev..
'04 CBR1100XX

 

Actually here's an even better illustration of things
The big number is the number of reported accidents, the small number is
the number of fatality accidents, so a triple fatality only counts as
one accident.. so it's comparing apples with apples. AFAIR the speed
camera program was introduced and expanded between 1989 and 1991. So
looking at the numbers.. the road toll was probably reduced as a direct
impact of speed cameras in 1989 and 1990 and thereafter the number of
accidents has pretty much remained the same, actually increasing in
years when the road toll decreased, which probably means that most of
the reduction in the road toll in the past 15 years has been related to
introduction of in-car safety measures, not speed cameras.

1989 24519 680
1990 20141 492
1991 16595 382
1992 16310 365
1993 15704 365
1994 16170 346
1995 16934 370
1996 17969 382
1997 17549 346
1998 17255 348
1999 18068 346
2000 17915 373
2001 17376 404
2002 17472 361
2003 16936 294
2004 16410 312
2005 16540 315


Nev..
'04 CBR1100XX