"sought after"

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by vifer, Sep 10, 2003.

  1. vifer

    vifer Guest

    what makes a sought after bike?
    Reliability?
    The limited manufacturer run?
    Exotism?
    Uniqueness?

    I'm contemplating what bike I should stick in the lounge room
    to afford my retirement in 35 years time.


    vifer
    '97 vfr750
    '81 CX500
     
    vifer, Sep 10, 2003
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    rodent Guest

    Green frame Duke, Black shadow and a few 500-750 triples(kawa)

    rodent
     
    rodent, Sep 10, 2003
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Pfft! Buy a painting; bikes are for RIDING!!
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Sep 10, 2003
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    conehead Guest

    Rossi's motogp bike would be a nice start.

    Maybe a gold-plated R1150GS?

    Hatz's next bike - would have very low km's.

    Checa's uncrashed bike (any)
     
    conehead, Sep 10, 2003
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  5. vifer

    sharkey Guest

    Put the CX500 in the lounge room, and your money into a worthwhile
    investment. Bikes ain't it.

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Sep 10, 2003
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  6. vifer

    vifer Guest


    And HD's. How the hell have they defied the odds of extinction
    and continue to sell bikes. Fundamentally, what's keeping them afloat?.
    Boutique merchandising??.
     
    vifer, Sep 10, 2003
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    Nev.. Guest

    To start, I'd find out which bike(s) people bought 35 years ago and stuck in
    their lounge rooms which are now being sold for millions of dollars in order
    to fund their retirements... and then I'd find an alternative investment
    which would fund my retirement in 10 or 15 years instead.

    Nev..
    '02 CBR1100XX #2
     
    Nev.., Sep 10, 2003
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  8. vifer

    Knobdoodle Guest

    ~
    Providing what their market wants to buy (instead of trying to dictate to the market!).
    Simple!
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Sep 10, 2003
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  9. vifer

    vifer Guest

    Let's see. 1968 saw the BMW R50, Triumph Trident , BSA 441, Honda 305,
    race creed HD KR750. Dunno hard to say .....I'll go the KR750.

    Enough to retire on? probably not. then again it depends on your needs.


    vifer
     
    vifer, Sep 10, 2003
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  10. If you need to ask....
     
    Pisshead Pete, Sep 10, 2003
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    Burnie M Guest

    No bike will enable you to afford your retirement.

    Just stick the money you would have bought it with in a term deposit
    and leave it there.
     
    Burnie M, Sep 10, 2003
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    Boxer Guest

    The BMW R50 was in production from 1955-1961

    The BMW R50/2 was in production from 1961-1969

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Sep 10, 2003
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  13. In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:50:19 GMT
    You should have done that 40 years ago.

    Then you could have bought a Brough and sold it in the mid 80s.

    Otherwise it won't work, cos the conditions that made a few bikes go
    stratospheric won't come again.

    In the mid 80s you had a huge number of people - the infamous baby
    boomers - who had fantasised about bikes as kids and were heavily cashed
    up, plus a smaller number of older bods who were also cashed up.

    in 35 years time there won't be as many cashed up bods and almost none
    of them will hve been riding bikes when young and want to buy a fancy
    bike.

    So yo ucan't do that with a bike, you need to find something that cashed
    up middle aged bods will want who are teenagers now.

    So buy a gold plated Playstation or something.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Sep 10, 2003
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  14. In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:32:32 GMT
    Yup. But it's not all image.

    There's also simplicity, and lack of pressure. Buy a sportbike and
    there's the expectation of going fast, which a lot of people don't want
    to do. Buy a hog, and just cruise.

    They know their market, and target it very well indeed. A massive
    success story that makes a lot of people jealous. People wouldn't slag
    them off otherwise...

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Sep 10, 2003
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  15. That could be why the green led labelled SITUATION NORMAL is blinking
    merrily away on my console. :)
     
    Intact Kneeslider, Sep 11, 2003
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  16. vifer

    Manning Guest

    "Dull" yes. "Practical" however, is a rare event and should be treated with
    awe and wonder.

    Manning
     
    Manning, Sep 11, 2003
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  17. Manning said....


    Ma> Your odds at investing in vanity items (like motorcycles, cars, art, wine
    Ma> etc) are not as good as going down to the RSL and playing the pokies. For
    Ma> every big time winner there are thousands of losers.

    What do you reckon about the purchasing of a Ducati 888 as an
    "investment"? A mate did this a few years back. He bought it new, with
    the intention of storing it. The bike has seen some rides. Dunno what
    it's worth these days, nor do I know what he paid for it. But if it's
    like any other Duke that I've seen, I wouldn't be surprised if it's
    "depreciated" dramatically.

    As an example, another mate had a Ducati 996 Strada. He paid $36,000 for
    it in 1998. 3 years later he sold it for about $17k.
     
    Martin Taylor, Sep 14, 2003
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  18. In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 14 Sep 2003 01:35:52 GMT
    Like everything else, gotta pick your Duke.

    When they made few bikes and those hard to get and umm... "for
    enthusiasts only", then the rep was such that people would buy them.
    But even then only the right ones - try making a profit on a parallel
    twin, or a stock Darmah,

    Some you can still sell if you wait for the buyer, but the number is
    slowly dropping.

    If you sold a good bevel 900SS early model in the mid 80s, you'd make a
    packet. You'd probably still sell it for good money, but you'd wait a
    fair old while for a buyer. Couldn't beat 'em off with a stick if you
    wanted to sell a 750F1 at one point, hard to shift now.

    As for 8 valves.... well the early ones were overtaken dead quick by
    the later ones, and each year Ducati bring out a bigger and better, so
    who wants very old tech now?

    I paid top dollar for my single in 1989. I could still get top dollar
    for it, but the profit would be about 2 grand. Could have invested the
    money and made more than that.

    In 30 years someone may want to buy your mate's 888. But I bet more
    will want a 916...

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Sep 14, 2003
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  19. vifer

    John Littler Guest

    Which will leave you a negative rate of return adjusted for inflation and bank
    fees after tax.

    JL*
    (over an 20 year period the share market will out perform property which will
    outperform bonds which will outperform fixed term deposits)
    *Financial Consultant before I swapped across to IT
     
    John Littler, Sep 14, 2003
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  20. You can have my 1989 model Kwaka ZXR400 for a measly 20grand. you
    won't find too many around, it's got character, comes with a full set
    of carbon fibre fairings(though the sides don't look too good anymore
    after tearing off at 200km/h). It's a modern classic ;)
    Mark
     
    allgoodnamestaken, Sep 14, 2003
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