Jenny Agutter on Breakfast News, there she was whinging on about how there's not enough traffic calming and twenty mile an hour zones. Eh? Where are they going to put them? Is there enough road space left for speed bumps. We had a similar thread a while ago on the twenty limits I know. There are parts of towns up here in good old Ayrshire that have speed bumps and twenty limits on the main roads in town! There's no schools, just dumb fuckwits that don't realise it's a good idea to have a look at what's coming before stepping out onto the road. I know, I hit one in my car four years ago. Not a pleasant experience, but then she was smashed out her face on some drug or other. There are twenty limits that are switched on whenever the school sees fit. This of course means that they can sometimes "forget" to switch it off all day. This is on a main arterial road through a town. Are kids not taught how to cross a road anymore? We had the green cross code man, and other things. They've got hedgehogs now. I was almost knocked down myself when I was about seven. I was saved by my brother yanking me back onto the pavement with the hood of my jacket. This was because I was an arse. My mum and dad saw the whole thing. Did they immediately scream at the driver of the car for being an idiot and going to fast? No, they had a go at me for being an arse. Quite right too! Wrap kids up in cotton wool and it'll hurt a damn sight more when they come to the slightest harm. Bloody, feckin nanny state. OK, rant over. I feel better now doctor. As you were.