Speed Camera Ambush

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by i-Central, Oct 19, 2004.

  1. i-Central

    i-Central Guest

    Heading out to Roma through Gatton.
    Stretch of road drops from 100 to 80 on a downhill stretch.
    20m after speed camera - goes back to 80.
    Booked at 110 - $250 + 4 points - noone was hurt.

    Q1. Is it fair game for the coppers to sit at the base of a 300m decline +
    set up a speed trap.

    I admit I was speeding.
    I admit I was lucky to get away with a punishment as light as this and the
    situation could have been worse.
    I found the cops professional and very fair.


    WTF are they doing laying ambushes ?
    Isn't it revenue raising / lazy / questionable ?

    If the Police are going to use these spots as collection points - why have
    them ?

    Is it simply a case of - "You fucked up - get over it "?


    troy
     
    i-Central, Oct 19, 2004
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    You fucked up - get over it!
    (Was this in Gatton or further west? Why didn't you go the bypass?)
     
    Knobdoodle, Oct 19, 2004
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    i-Central Guest

    *** 20m after speed camera - goes back to (100) - not 80.

    From 100 to 80 - downhill stretch of 4 - 500m - back to 100.

    Speed camera at 80.
    Booked doing 110.

    Considering nitrous system - any suggestions welcome.

    - = [ troy ] = -
    www.i-central.com.au
     
    i-Central, Oct 19, 2004
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    Chris Coote Guest

    don't speed through there again?

    Sounds dodgy, having never been there however you have to agree with me that
    the white signs with the red circle do stand out. sadly the numbers enclosed
    do not correlate to anything but a lowest common denominator (the aged that
    no longer need to have their sight tested in QLD).

    cop it sweet, make sure everyone knows it's a trap. flash headlights at will
    next time you see one on the 'tuther side of the road. hope like hell
    someone does the same for you.

    CC
     
    Chris Coote, Oct 19, 2004
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  5. Next time don't stop.
     
    Zaphod Beeblebrox, Oct 19, 2004
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    Stan Gifford Guest

    If in NSW I was under the impression that there was an agreement for
    them not to do speed traps at the bottom of a hill. Give NRMA a call -
    see what they have to say!



    Stan
     
    Stan Gifford, Oct 19, 2004
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  7. yeah fair point,but, if 200 people a day **** up in the same manner on the
    same section of road, who is saving who from what ????

    mick chester

    p.s. when was the last you saw a speed camera setup in a road work zone (
    not that bullshit display thing they use on the hume , it just reads back
    your speed no camera involved contrary to sign associated)
     
    Michael Chester, Oct 19, 2004
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  8. Q1. Is it fair game for the coppers to sit at the base of a 300m decline +
    It's fair game to put one anywhere. I speed as much as the next guy, but if
    I get caught, I cop it sweet. I know I was doing the wrong thing. You've got
    brakes. If you're brakes had failed, you'd have a fair case, but then you
    wouldn't have continued all the way home.
    2 schools of thought.
    1: Revenue
    2: Speeding down a hill is dangerous. It takes longer to brake as you
    are fighting gravity as well as your momentum.
    Depends on the exact situation. I'm not a Queenslander, so I don't know
    the road. Maybe, maybe not. Have there been many accidents around there
    lately?
    them ?
    To act as collection points. Money has to come from somewhere.
    Yep. That's about it.
     
    James Mayfield, Oct 19, 2004
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  9. Speed camera at 80.
    So even if it was a 100 zone, you were 10 over the limit. May not have
    been wheeled by the cops for only 100.
    Don't know about Queensland, but they're illegal for road use in NSW.
    (Like BIG TIME illegal.) You can have you bike rigged up for it, but you
    can't actually have the bottle connected on the road. (Or something like
    that. Someone more knowledgable on all the legal bits and pieces will
    correct me and make me look like a goose I'm sure.)
    Why do you want nitrous? What bike are you riding? How often do you take
    it to the strip? What quater times are you running now?

    Suggestion: If you want more power, buy a ZX12, or a Hirebus.
    If you still want more power, have a FAT wallet.
     
    James Mayfield, Oct 19, 2004
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    Rural QLD CC Guest

    I don't think that's right actually. I seem to remember my ex (a copper)
    telling me something about them only being allowed to operate them in
    'approved' spots.

    MrBonk
    www.mrbonk.com
     
    Rural QLD CC, Oct 19, 2004
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    Dave_H Guest

    The answer is yes the pigs ambushed you and its not fair. It IS all
    about revenue, they dont really care about saving lives etc. they have
    their quota's to meet.

    The courts support them, the government gets your money to waste.

    what can you do? not much it seems but youre not alone in believing
    its a load of sh1t
     
    Dave_H, Oct 20, 2004
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    Chris Coote Guest

    And then we all stop speeding for a week and the Victorian gov. shits
    themselves, going broke etc. etc.

    QLD revenue from cameras and speeding tickets ALL go to the CTP insurers.
    not a cent goes to the Government or coppers.

    Sadly not the case in some of the other states.

    CC
     
    Chris Coote, Oct 20, 2004
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    Biggus... Guest

    Yes do the same as this time, wait for the fine in the mail.
     
    Biggus..., Oct 20, 2004
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    Biggus... Guest

    telling me something about them only being allowed to operate them in 'approved' spots.
    Yes anywhere outside of the car.
     
    Biggus..., Oct 20, 2004
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Eh?!!?
    I haven't heard this before. CTP is all privatised up here so I can't
    imagine this working nor believe that the Govt would be so generous.....
    Clem
    (but I've been wrong on Usenet before)
     
    Knobdoodle, Oct 21, 2004
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    david Guest


    No, I think you're wrong about that.

    :p
    David
     
    david, Oct 21, 2004
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  17. I don't think that's right actually. I seem to remember my ex (a copper)
    i believe this to be the case...who 'approves' what is unknown
    there were supposed to be guidelines negotiated by 'motoring
    organisations' when the camera's were first introduced...who thinks they
    are actually upheld?
    we had one spot on a hill locally, with bushes to hide the sign in
    too!!, every few weeks they'd park there...then i got the shits with it
    and took photo's of the setup intending to find regs and complain if
    there was a breach.
    never got aroundtuit
    havent seen it there for months now
     
    fulliautomatix, Oct 21, 2004
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    Boxer Guest

    Sounds like crap to me too.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Oct 21, 2004
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  19. Knobdoodle said....
    What a licence to print money, then, if speeding fine revenue goes
    directly to private enterprise.
     
    Martin Taylor, Oct 22, 2004
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    Stan Gifford Guest

    Does in Victoria I believe. Speeding cameras operated by private company
    who get a cut from the fines. Wonder why the tolerances are so low in
    Vic........

    Stan
     
    Stan Gifford, Oct 22, 2004
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