Speed camera loophole

In which case, I agree with Conor, I must be a good driver, I guessed
correctly my speed, today, every so often I guessed, then looked at the
speedo and was correct to within 5mph.
I was varying my speed to test it out, and kept between 100 and 150
mph. it *is* nice to know a professional driver has sorted it, I always
thought he was a clueless tit.

 

A vast proportion of them are, especially in roadworks. Remind me again
how many tens of thousands the ones on the M4 roadworks caught?

 

I've done well in excess of 1.5 million miles all over the UK in the
last 13 years and haven't got a single point for speeding. Do you
honestly think in all of those miles I've not exceeded the speed limit
once?

And no, I don't have one of those bullshit detector things.

 

Because how fast you are going affects three things:

1) Stopping distances
2) Safe distance between two vehicles.

....and camera related:

3) Not stamping on the brake when you FINALLY notice the bright yellow
box even though you are travelling below the limit.


With quite a few modern cars, they feel like they're going alot slower
than they are. For example, 60MPH in my Capri feels alot faster than 80
did in my wifes BMW 525.

You can see examples of people getting it wrong all over the place.

 

So what about a roadsign warning you of a hazard? Or a pedestrian
stood at the side of the road?

Oh dear.

 

No, really? Makes no difference. Remind me again how many tens of
thousands of car drivers got caught in the M4 roadworks over the space
of a few weeks?

 

If you can't take in all the signs, you're going too fast for the
conditions.

Nope. But knowing what speed you are doing stops you causing pileups by
stamping on your brakes when you see a camera even though you are going
at/below the limit.

 

And guess what? You can achieve that by driving at the speed limit.
IME, only a small percentage do 70MPH on motorways and dual
carriageways. Most are doing around 60-65.

 

That, of course, is a different issue.

But a driver without a speedo doesn't know how fact the vehicle is going (if
it's moving, that is), and you just said (a couple of posts back) that any
driver who doesn't know how fast he is going cannot be driving safely.

Which is it?

Tht sounds like an awfully roundabout way for cameras to contribute to road-safety.

 

Conor () gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

And a very large proportion aren't.

I don't recall going through the M4 ones, but the M25 permanent ones are
completely hidden. The M1 roadworks SPECS cameras are visible - if you know
what they are - they're certainly not "great big reflective yellow boxes".

 

To be fair knowing how fast you are going and knowing how many of some
arbitrary unit of distance you are travelling in some arbitrary unit of time
are two different things...

It is bloody annoying when people do it though ;-)

 

Conor () gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

Most of them in a vehicle governed to 14mph below the prevailing NSL for
the class of roads, on roads with a very low proportion of cameras.

 

See below for an example. I've also quoted another regarding how fast
you feel you are going.

 

tim (in sweden) said...

Ah the 2 second rule.

If some **** doesn't get out of your way after flashing them for 2
seconds, undertake them whilst giving them the Gareth Hunt.

 

never heard of the two second rule? It factors out the need to
know your speed just like it also factors out the need to measure
100 metres (whatever) which I wager a lot can't do either.

tim

 

I don't know the motorways on your planet are like, but if you're in a car
stuck at 60-65 on any motorway I can think of, you'd be a fucking irritating
hood ornament if you didn't get out of the way.

 

Of course not; take it to the redline in every gear.

Sorted.
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Don't you drive on motorways? Or maybe you are just talking about the
inside lane?

 

....apart from being signed that they're operating in that
location/marks on the road/people knowing where they are and still
getting caught...

 

And yet again:

A great many speed cameras are placed on roads with limits at or below
50MPH.