"Speed fines refund after blunder"

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Steve Parry, May 25, 2005.

  1. Steve Parry

    Steve Parry Guest

    Steve Parry, May 25, 2005
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    wessie Guest

    Steve Parry emerged from their own little world to say
    A blanket refund is an improvement on what happened in similar
    circumstances on the M4 at Newport. In this case a Gatso was installed in a
    50mph speed limit in roadworks. Except the range of the radar extended
    beyond the restriction so loads of motorists were prosecuted when they were
    legitimately accelerating back to 70ish. S Wales plod stated that they
    would only refund people who made a complaint. Cunts.

    Could be some interesting consequential loss claims if someone got a ban
    through totting up and lost their job.
     
    wessie, May 25, 2005
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  3. Steve Parry

    Steve Parry Guest

    wessie fumbled, fiddled and fingered:
    Yes now you mention it I recall that. Be nice if the motoring
    organisations would get a bit more politically active and fight for
    their members rather than tow the Governement line.
    Especially as they've openly admitted the cockup

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    (not forgetting the SK90PY)

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    Steve Parry, May 25, 2005
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  4. Steve Parry

    Steve Parry Guest

    Antoine fumbled, fiddled and fingered:
    "Last month, figures showed the numbers of motorists caught speeding on
    roads in north Wales had risen by 70% compared to the previous year. "

    Does'nt really look like the scheme is slowing anyone down does it :)



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    Steve Parry
    K100RS SE & F650
    and a 520i SE Touring for comfort

    (not forgetting the SK90PY)

    http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk
     
    Steve Parry, May 25, 2005
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    Ben Guest

    Roadworks are one situation where I have no problem with cameras.
    Slowing traffic from 70+ mph when you've got guys working just metres
    away makes perfect sense to me.
     
    Ben, May 25, 2005
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    Ace Guest

    No it hasn't. You're getting this confused - there is some evidence to
    show that they're less effective than speed bumps at reducing accident
    rates, but less effective ^= don't work.
    less effective ^= not safer

    I'm no supporter of the things, but making stupid claims like this
    doesn't help anyone's argument.

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    Ace, May 25, 2005
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    CT Guest

    I agree - as long as there actually are guys working just metres away.
    It would be nice, if improbable, that a 40mph restriction in road
    works could be increase to 50/55mph during the night when there is
    no-one working though.
     
    CT, May 25, 2005
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  8. Steve Parry

    Switters Guest

    I'm curious: What programming language or such is that syntax from
    (assuming it is meant to mean "not equals". It would be an XOR
    application in stuff I use and can remember.
     
    Switters, May 25, 2005
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    Ben Guest

    Works tend to be 24 hour though. And before people complain about
    long stretchs of lower limit before getting to the works, it's to try
    an slow people down well in advance of them getting there.
     
    Ben, May 25, 2005
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  10. SAS so probably some version of C

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    Adrienne M Bonwick, May 25, 2005
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    Krusty Guest

    Ugh, I used to use SAS about 14 years ago. Hated the software, but
    loved going on training courses at their head office - a rather
    stunning mansion in Medmenham (sp?) iirc.
     
    Krusty, May 25, 2005
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  12. I used to too. I now tell SAS techies what the Medics want and
    translate techie speak to medics.

    They're still there but now have a spiffy new building over the other
    side of side as they out grew the building they moved into after they
    out grew the main house.

    they still use the house for some stuff.

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    Adie
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    Adrienne M Bonwick, May 25, 2005
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  13. Steve Parry

    Switters Guest

    In C/C++ that would mean an XOR assignment. For not equals one would use
    !=. Just curious, I don't want to come across like a nerd or owt like
    that.
     
    Switters, May 25, 2005
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  14. Steve Parry

    Ace Guest

    It's an IBM thing, I guess. Back in t'old days, most IBM mainframe
    languages (running on EBCDIC character sets) used a symbol a bit like
    a reversed L, on its side
    ____
    |
    for NOT. When multi-platform stuff was becoming popular in the '80s,
    like using 3270 terminal emulations, a more generic character was
    required and hence the ^ was adopted.

    I think it's actually supported by ANSI-standard SQL, as well.
    Certainly many SQL implementations allow it.

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    Ace, May 26, 2005
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  15. Steve Parry

    Switters Guest

    Curses, me and my curiosity.
     
    Switters, May 26, 2005
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  16. Antoine wrote
    But they do. Or at least some do. The one near me has all but put an
    end to the regular death and injury which used to occur around here and
    by a happy bonus has also been an excellent earner to pay for all the
    new Community Policemen who stop you in the street every 50 yards to ask
    the way to somewhere they would know intimately if only they were locals
    and not bloody Kosovans.

    Although, the fact that there are still a huge number of non locals
    prepared to spend extra for driving like a **** round here and there has
    also been a drop in accidents which suggests that it was mostly the
    locals who were doing the killing in the first place.
     
    steve auvache, May 26, 2005
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  17. Ben wrote

    It makes even more sense when you have actually done it. Years ago I
    worked for GEC Traffic Signals. In general I was at the side of the
    road rather on it when working but the tales the gangs who dug holes in
    motorways would tell in the caff are really quite horrific and nearly
    always began with the **** of a cager blaming them for having the
    temerity for digging the hole in the first place.
     
    steve auvache, May 26, 2005
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  18. Steve Parry

    'Hog Guest

    Hold him down someone while I cut them off!!

    'Hog
     
    'Hog, May 26, 2005
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