Speed limit crackdown to cut emissions

from
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homeaffairs/story/0,11026,1642046,00.html

"Ministers are planning to crack down on motorists who speed on
motorways
in an attempt to meet government targets aimed at reducing Britain's
emissions
of greenhouse gases.

Officials acknowledge that any move to force the 15 million motorists
who currently
exceed the 70 mph speed limit to slow down would be "politically
sensitive", but they
say it would save significant amounts of carbon dioxide pollution.
Engine efficiency
falls quickly beyond 70 mph."

Is it just me or is that last sentence a tad convenient. I mean, if
the limit was
currently 80mph, would it be "falls quickly beyond 80mph".

Not that I'm disputing this "fact", just the way it is reported.

 

and if I drive at 60mph but stay in second gear?

 

Didn't Guy Fawkes (the first one) have an idea to cut down hot air
emissions a long time ago?

 

Well they could convince us by scrapping speeding fines and replacing
it with an *education* lecture all about the environment.
Remember this kind of thing is driven by mad_as_a_fucking_hatter
minority interest groups who would like to remove your access to
personal motorised transport *completely*

'Hog

 

CT wrote:
..

My car does 60mpg+ at 60mph.
It goes down to about 50 at 70 and down from there.

I still think it's bollocks though. Most emissions are from the stop/start
round town thing aren't they?

Cruising on the motorway is 2000rpm. In town it's all sorts but rarely that
low.

 

I'd rather they stuck a £2 surcharge on incandescent lightbulbs, to be
honest

 

It's too hard for plod to get their numbers - they are so far away.

 

I went out yesterday morning to get some bits and pieces, and since I
wanted to pick up some bulky stuff, I went in the car.

Some **** had stuck a very sticky sticker over the (embossed, not
painted) "Jeep" logo in the centre of the front of the bonnet. It took
me nearly 20 minutes of picking at it to get it and the glue removed.
The sticker had read "4x4 owners - you are responsible for climate
change".

So I made a point of driving like a **** on my errands and got the
average fuel economy for the round trip down to 14mpg.

 

all depends on type and size of engine

 

CT:

They want to reduce the amount of fuel used?

Why the hell are public transport vehicles and tractor units all
box-shaped? If they were tapered at the ends, like the TGV, surely that
would help reduce drag and reduce fuel consumption as a result?

Yeah.. hit the motorist and ignore the rest.

Wouldnt be so bad if cars could hit 70, on most motorways. It not just
towns that are all stop-start.....

 

I saw a tv program a little while ago with some woman in London doing
that to 4x4s.

Best bit was that despite her being a rabid eco-warrior she drove
around in a clapped out late 70's Porsche.

Wonder what gives lower emissions, her Porsche or a new 4x4?

 

Probably to do with the fact that cars are built in the knowledge that 70mph
is our speed limit. I imagine if the motorway limit was 120mph, you would
find car makers putting a sixth gear on, and you'd get the same mpg at a
higher speed.

Just a thought...

 

most efficient speed is just above idling in top gear where the car does not
labour so it varies between vehicles 50mph was just an arbitrary speed the
government took in the fuel crisis back in the 70s , you use about 20% less
fuel between 50 and 75 in an 'average family car ' whatever that is

 

The whole concept shows very wooly thinking - for example, I do about
4,000-5,000 miles per year in the Jeep. OK, so that's at ~20mpg
average. But I'm polluting a lot less than the someone with a "normal"
car who drives more. Also, it's got a cat, and the emissions at MOT
time are well under the limits. Plus, I bought it second hand, and have
had it for 4.5 years - again, this is reasonably "green" in terms of
car-usage (i.e. compared to buying a new car every 18 months).

she sounds like a bit of a ****.

well, duh.

 

Pardon?

'Hog

 

*Ding*
By removing normal radiant light bulbs from sale and supplying only
the energy efficient types through retail and making timer style light
switches the norm, the UK could probably exceed its conservation
targets within 5 years through reduced power generation demands. That
we don't hear the Greens clamouring for this is the big giveaway about
the *actual* agenda. They are luddites dreaming of a low mobility
agrarian society, codenamed "Cunts".

'Hog

 

I hope you put it in a recycle bin.

 

Any bright ideas as regards using fluorescent "energy saver" bulbs with
dimmer switches?

 

I meant the jeep you pillock.

 

Which is ironic, as paper, ink and adhesives are *soooo* fucking
environmentally friendly to make, aren't they?

Top man.