Speeding

Took my eldest lad to court yesterday, he'd got done for speeding last
February (108mph on the M5).

He came away with a 28 day ban and £140 fine. No points were mentioned
but I assume they're mandatory?
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No idea, but crikey, that strikes me as getting off pretty lightly.

 

No. He got a ban instead. If he got points to count towards a tot-up ban,
that'd be being banned twice for the same offence.

 

Not with a ban, no.
It will still affect his insurance when he gets the licence back , but not
for totting up purposes.

 

Crikey - what was the offence code for that? SP50? or SP60?

 

No. A ban is a ban, wipes the licence clean so to speak, and you can
amass points again. I discovered this the hard way, too.

The ban isn't as bad an insurance-muncher as you might expect, either.
Inscos look at the offence code for the offence, not the penalty. I
found that out too, when I got banned, because the offence code was
just an SP30. They always asked why I got banned (28 days: first
offence, too) and then just said: "Oh well, we don't care about that."

 

Doesn't it only wipe existing points off if it's a tot-up ban?

 

A simple doesn't wipe off existing points, no. A tot-up does, yes. But
a straight ban carries no points and so if (say) you've already got
six points, then you still have six points and can amass another four
before a totting ban. Sorry: should have explained myself better.

 

SP50 is "speeding on a motorway" so I'd presume it was that.

It's what I got for 110 on the M4 last year, anyway. Though that only
cost me 60 quid and three points.

 

"If it saves the life of *one* child..."

 

I just expected the ban for that sort of thing to be rather longer. The way
the Govt go on about it, you'd think speeding were on a par with drink
driving.

I'm not suggesting that it's proportional to the act committed...

 

Why? How many people died? Who was the victim?

So, on a dead straight road, with no pedestrians or animals he exceeded
the speed limit by just over 30mph and you think a ban is OK?

FFS.

 

You mean things have changes in the last twenty years?
A month's ban wiped the points off my licence in 1986.

 

Any of the little darlings wandering around the road should be killed
anyway - otherwise Darwinism isn't being allowed to work.

 

Only if you are a shallow minded loony who believes everything s/he is
told by our ever loving masters.

That's decent of you.

 

Yeah, I got an SP50 years ago for 70 in a temp 50 on the M42.

 

Under totting-up? I could have got it wrong, I s'pose. It was the only
ban I've ever had and it was 25 years ago.

 

No. A month's ban for an offence. No totting up at all.
I was told by my solicitor that a totting up ban would leave the points on the licence
so the choices were - go for a short ban and get a clean licence afterwards
or negotiate it down to three points, get totted up, a six month ban, and a dirty licence afterwards.

Of course things may have changed recently.

 

A totting up ban doesn't leave the points already on the licence, it
replaces them with a TT99.

A non-totting-up-ban would be given instead of points, but wouldn't have
any effect on points already on the licence.

Or, at least, that's how it is now. 1986 was a very long time ago.

 

I suspect time has confused the two options. Totting up "uses" all the
previous points. An outright ban leaves them.